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Old Sep 3, 2024 | 09:52 AM
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Anyway, I think this is the wrong forum to discuss emissions, displacement etc. This discussion should be left for Car Chat. If you want to discuss taxes on cars, EV's are taxed here in California to make up for lost gas tax revenue. My DMV renewal fees are way higher than gas vehicles:

Hyundai Ioniq 5: $731
Tesla Model Y: $750
Polestar: $706
Toyota Sienna: $187
That's also tied to value, though. Yes, EV renewals here are higher, but your EVs are all newer than your Sienna and that's a big contributor to the registration fees. My son's RX, our oldest car, was just $177. My truck on the other hand is over $1000, partly due to MSRP but partly as CA treats all trucks as commercial. My Land Rover is about the same as your Model Y, no EV penalty in play but the MSRP impacts it.
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Old Sep 3, 2024 | 10:30 AM
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That's also tied to value, though. Yes, EV renewals here are higher, but your EVs are all newer than your Sienna and that's a big contributor to the registration fees. My son's RX, our oldest car, was just $177. My truck on the other hand is over $1000, partly due to MSRP but partly as CA treats all trucks as commercial. My Land Rover is about the same as your Model Y, no EV penalty in play but the MSRP impacts it.
I was going to say the same about values. His post is really misleading. If CA taxed EVs like he implied, there wouldn't have been that many EVs in CA. Some states do "EV penalty". They go from a $100 to all the way to $400 each new EV registration.
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That's also tied to value, though. Yes, EV renewals here are higher, but your EVs are all newer than your Sienna and that's a big contributor to the registration fees. My son's RX, our oldest car, was just $177. My truck on the other hand is over $1000, partly due to MSRP but partly as CA treats all trucks as commercial. My Land Rover is about the same as your Model Y, no EV penalty in play but the MSRP impacts it.
True, California charges $175 more for EV's as well as a $3 Alternative fuel fee. My point was, we don't get the free ride everyone thinks we do
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Old Sep 3, 2024 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Hyundai Ioniq 5: $731
Tesla Model Y: $750
Polestar: $706
Toyota Sienna: $187
Ridiculous, people should not be dinged for driving a clean vehicle.
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Ridiculous, people should not be dinged for driving a clean vehicle.
except what he posted isn't much about them being ev's.
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Old Sep 3, 2024 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
except what he posted isn't much about them being ev's.
Registration fees for EVs being much higher isn't about EVs? I must be missing some context.
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Registration fees for EVs being much higher isn't about EVs? I must be missing some context.
yes you are, the sienna ice vehicle he has is MUCH older and worth a whole lot less, making registration less.
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Old Sep 3, 2024 | 01:55 PM
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yes you are, the sienna ice vehicle he has is MUCH older and worth a whole lot less, making registration less.
Why would an older vehicle cost less to register?
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
Why would an older vehicle cost less to register?
Because thats how it works in many states. Registration fees are based on the vehicle's value.
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Old Sep 3, 2024 | 02:10 PM
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Because thats how it works in many states. Registration fees are based on the vehicle's value.
I see. When I was in PA that wasn't the case, not for passenger vehicles. In Alberta all passenger cars have the same fee. I personally think we should get rid of all registration fees the administration costs alone probably eat up most of the cash coming in.
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I see. When I was in PA that wasn't the case, not for passenger vehicles. In Alberta all passenger cars have the same fee. I personally think we should get rid of all registration fees the administration costs alone probably eat up most of the cash coming in.
I shouldn't have posted the Sienna because of its age (and not being an EV), CA DMV fees are based on the value of the car which gets less as they age. So the Model Y, Polestar and Ioniq 5 would have higher DMV fees as they are newer, but there is a $175 as well as a $3 clean vehicle fee added to them, which is OK with me because I'm not paying gasoline tax, which is used for maintaining roads. Or so they say
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So this is the DMV fees if these were ICE vehicles

Hyundai Ioniq 5: $731 $553
Tesla Model Y: $750 $572
Polestar: $706 $528
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Those registration fees are obscene IMO. Ontario now has $0 registration fee for passenger cars.
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
Those registration fees are obscene IMO. Ontario now has $0 registration fee for passenger cars.
You probably pay a lot more taxes overall though
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Those registration fees are obscene IMO. Ontario now has $0 registration fee for passenger cars.
He's right. I worked with a colleague who moved from Toronto and she told me that her income was taxed 60 percent. She loved everything about moving here except she told me our healthcare system sucks
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