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Lexus Test Driver
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Oh man, you'll love the "fart cans" people put on cars out here. Imagine driving behind an old Civic with an eBay special hanging out the back. There's a guy I sometimes run into going to work who did a resonator delete with a crappy eBay exhaust on his Camry SE (must be between 2020 and 2022) and it just sounds God awful 😞. Especially when he floors it, I actually think it slows his car down.
I can still appreciate a great engineered exhaust with a deep growl that doesn't drone. The M4 'S exhaust is the perfect example of a great exhaust note. Notice I didn't say noise
. I could live with that for my daily commute
I can still appreciate a great engineered exhaust with a deep growl that doesn't drone. The M4 'S exhaust is the perfect example of a great exhaust note. Notice I didn't say noise
. I could live with that for my daily commuteI'm seeing an increased number of young drivers on social media flexing "regular traffic". That's a Gen Z slang for an unremarkable car being treated like a performance vehicle or status object by an owner with little awareness. I don't like to be disrespectful because I think normal family or economy cars fill an important need for millions of drivers, but it is tacky when somebody buys a Camry or Accord and starts posting it to the gram with music like they're running a GT500 or something.
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I'm seeing an increased number of young drivers on social media flexing "regular traffic". That's a Gen Z slang for an unremarkable car being treated like a performance vehicle or status object by an owner with little awareness. I don't like to be disrespectful because I think normal family or economy cars fill an important need for millions of drivers, but it is tacky when somebody buys a Camry or Accord and starts posting it to the gram with music like they're running a GT500 or something.
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This is the second time my wife's 3 has had a problem like this. The first time was much worse with the car fully undriveable. That was a failed body controller so it'll be interesting to see what this issue is.
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It helps to understand what a lot of us petrolheads liked about cars to begin with. The sounds, the mechanical aspect, etc. Gearheads. EV's are cool, they're fast, and they're almost certainly the future. There's just a tangible feel that they don't have.
It's probably easier to move on if your interest in cars was more on tech/luxury features or maybe visual styling. Those of us who like to hear and feel the powerband on our ICE engines, it's hard to give that up. Even if I know an M3P is going to gap my 540i. There's always going to be cars that can gap me.
It's probably easier to move on if your interest in cars was more on tech/luxury features or maybe visual styling. Those of us who like to hear and feel the powerband on our ICE engines, it's hard to give that up. Even if I know an M3P is going to gap my 540i. There's always going to be cars that can gap me.
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I would agree with what you are saying and I know we like to analogize from a flip phone to a smart phone but I think a better analogy would be a Apple watch to a nice mechanical watch like a Rolex, Patek, AP, etc. Sure the Apple watch keeps time much more accurately, can be used to call people, get text messages, etc. but there is something special about a nice mechanical watch that has nostalgia with all of its mechanical complexities that to me is really cool which is why they are sought after and hold their value more.
For under $60k, I can buy a car that will be a great daily commuter, comfortable and quiet, super efficient, and has near, or even better performance to the M4. And I bet the Model 3 Performance exceeds M4 performance wise.The flip phone analogy is more towards cars like the Camry, Accord, RAV4 etc
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I NEED that. 🤓
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About $200 a month with a $1000 deductible. I'm guessing the M4 is more than double this
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It depends on the car you are talking about. Yes, the M4 I drove on Sunday, and others like it are just like a finely built mechanical watch, 100 percent agree, but how many people can afford an M4, M3, 911 etc? The M4 I drove on Sunday is over $100k, my friend put down something like $10k and his lease is $1500 a month, and he spends easily over $200 month on gas. Lets not get into insurance For under $60k, I can buy a car that will be a great daily commuter, comfortable and quiet, super efficient, and has near, or even better performance to the M4. And I bet the Model 3 Performance exceeds M4 performance wise.
The flip phone analogy is more towards cars like the Camry, Accord, RAV4 etc
For under $60k, I can buy a car that will be a great daily commuter, comfortable and quiet, super efficient, and has near, or even better performance to the M4. And I bet the Model 3 Performance exceeds M4 performance wise.The flip phone analogy is more towards cars like the Camry, Accord, RAV4 etc
It could be an age thing too, would most of the younger generation appreciate a nice mechanical watch vs. an Apple Watch that does things so much better? In the age of tech, I would guess many would rather have the Apple Watch.