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EV ftw!!!
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Some of you will think the answers are very ev negative because it's on x but I think there's a growing tech backlash
https://x.com/petersweden7/status/18...475727225?s=46
https://x.com/petersweden7/status/18...475727225?s=46
it's the replies, not his post. moreover, *EVERYONE* i speak to not on here has NO INTEREST in an ev. they think it's too risky, too much hassle, too weird (tesla), etc, etc. they might get a hybrid, but that's it.
i know we all love them, but i just think there's huge resistance.
i know we all love them, but i just think there's huge resistance.
interesting video on charging experience in a variety of uk non-tesla chargers. not too bad... although one comment says $1 equivalent per kwh, ouch.
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EVs dominant at Pike's Peak this year. Fastest climb was in a modified F-150 Lightning. Fantastic showings from Hyundai and Rivian as well. The Ford was competing in the Open division and the Hyundais and Rivian were in the Exhibition division
Modified Ioniq 5N set the record for fastest modified vehicle (beating a modified Plaid!)
R1T with the new Quad motors set the record for fastest unmodified truck
Stock Ioniq 5N set the record for fastest unmodified / stock vehicle (beating the R1T that just ran by 4 seconds)
Modified F150 Lightning took the top overall spot
Modified Ioniq 5N set the record for fastest modified vehicle (beating a modified Plaid!)
R1T with the new Quad motors set the record for fastest unmodified truck
Stock Ioniq 5N set the record for fastest unmodified / stock vehicle (beating the R1T that just ran by 4 seconds)
Modified F150 Lightning took the top overall spot
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it's the replies, not his post. moreover, *EVERYONE* i speak to not on here has NO INTEREST in an ev. they think it's too risky, too much hassle, too weird (tesla), etc, etc. they might get a hybrid, but that's it.
i know we all love them, but i just think there's huge resistance.
i know we all love them, but i just think there's huge resistance.
The huge resistance is largely political. Politically I am in a place where people want EVs and you’re in a place where politically they don’t. That’s all it is. People where you are will be much slower to convert for sure but they will.
Last edited by SW17LS; Jun 24, 2024 at 06:00 AM.
You also live in FL where it doesn’t surprise me that people you talk to have no interest in EVs.
Many many people I talk to have lots of interest in EVs, in fact I was just in NJ and my brother in law and I talked about EVs for an hour because he’s looking to electrify all of their cars, one full EV And two PHEVs out of 3 gas cars.
as you probably know, phev's are hard to get, and the additional cost will likely never be made back.
The huge resistance is largely political. ... People where you are will be much slower to convert for sure but they will.
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EV ftw!!!
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when the husband is excited about his new ev, and the wife craps all over it. LOLOL
https://youtu.be/g14qx-S_UMc?si=4RzwbYaNOlu5NCGj
https://youtu.be/g14qx-S_UMc?si=4RzwbYaNOlu5NCGj
He didn't talk to/get approval from his wife before he bought the car?
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it's the replies, not his post. moreover, *EVERYONE* i speak to not on here has NO INTEREST in an ev. they think it's too risky, too much hassle, too weird (tesla), etc, etc. they might get a hybrid, but that's it.
i know we all love them, but i just think there's huge resistance.
i know we all love them, but i just think there's huge resistance.
Tell us something we don't already know 🤣. There are people today who would rather their kids get measles than the vaccine because they believe they are being experimented on or chips are being implemented in them. I personally can care less what they want to drive
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i didn't know anything about him but looks like he's a swedish conservative journalist? anyway, you're probably right there.
very narrow cliché view of florida. a) i talk to people all over the world, and b) i talk to people in FL of ALL political leanings. no interest. at all. curiosity, but not ready to buy.
so only 1 ev out of 3 cars. not a ringing endorsement. also nj has (or had) state ev incentives, so that helps. what is driving his interest? environmentalism? saving money on gas? something else?
as you probably know, phev's are hard to get, and the additional cost will likely never be made back.
i don't think it's 'largely political'. some of it may simply be demographics, in that i'm older than you and probably talk to more people nearer my age and many of them will likely never get an ev (very change resistant).
very narrow cliché view of florida. a) i talk to people all over the world, and b) i talk to people in FL of ALL political leanings. no interest. at all. curiosity, but not ready to buy.
so only 1 ev out of 3 cars. not a ringing endorsement. also nj has (or had) state ev incentives, so that helps. what is driving his interest? environmentalism? saving money on gas? something else?
as you probably know, phev's are hard to get, and the additional cost will likely never be made back.
i don't think it's 'largely political'. some of it may simply be demographics, in that i'm older than you and probably talk to more people nearer my age and many of them will likely never get an ev (very change resistant).
People have a fundamental misunderstanding about EV's, mostly from misinformation fed to them from guys like this. Once people start getting hands on experience, non Tesla charging infrastructure becomes more robust, people will realize they have been lied to. All the people I know who had Blackberries resisted smartphones for years, until they couldn't, and if you ask those same people if they would trade their smartphones for a Blackberry, they would think you were mad
and that's 95% of people, lol.
Are you talking with people who live in The Villages? LOL
Once people start getting hands on experience, non Tesla charging infrastructure becomes more robust, people will realize they have been lied to.
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I work for a large tech company. Almost everyone I talk to at work is very much interested in EV's and what they're all about. It's the people with little tech knowledge that I find hesitant to change. It's been that way with everything tech related throughout the years, but EV's do have a very high political connotation associated to them. Are you talking with people who live in The Villages? LOL
It's more about their personality types. My mother in law is very active, very open to trying new things. My mom is more cautious and more set in her ways and not open to trying new things for "fear" of something going wrong.
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absolutely agree. and that's 95% of people, lol.
haha, i only know 1 person there, ha, but i talk to people from everywhere.
agreed!
'lied to' might be a bit strong, there's misconceptions and exaggerations. yes some lies about ev's causing more pollution (absurd), and always the range paranoia, but it's just going to take a number of years for people to be open to checking them out. for most boomers though, likely not going to happen, unless there becomes a giant financial and/or convenience reason to do so.
and that's 95% of people, lol.haha, i only know 1 person there, ha, but i talk to people from everywhere.
agreed!
'lied to' might be a bit strong, there's misconceptions and exaggerations. yes some lies about ev's causing more pollution (absurd), and always the range paranoia, but it's just going to take a number of years for people to be open to checking them out. for most boomers though, likely not going to happen, unless there becomes a giant financial and/or convenience reason to do so.
But the biggest thing that needs to be addressed right now is non Tesla charging infrastructure. It needs to not only be built out more, but it needs to be reliable, and needs to be cheap. For Tesla owners, our needs have been pretty much met, for Legacy EV's to be successful, Infrastructure is still the biggest challenge
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