i disagree. They're now old designs. That a7 in particular has had too many nips and tucks and the front looks bad.

 

Yeah its the low floor, the low ground clearance, to me its just a tall car.

They really have I agree

 

Whatever anyone wants to categorize it as, doesn't matter to me. We use it as our family car, for Costco, Lowe's and Home Depot runs, and the trip car. Backseat passengers are more comfortable and have more room. Not the Sienna type utility, but way more utility than my Model 3

 

We went through all this with the last revision of the federal tax credit legislation and why at one point only some Model Y variants qualified for the credit and at what MSRP level. The short answer is what is an SUV is effectively a legal definition based on certain measurable attributes and the Model Y meets those definitions. In other words, it is not a sedan and so it gets to take advantage of the 80K MSRP cap.

 

I'm not saying anybody else can't consider it a crossover, I just don't think of it as one. If I can't take it anywhere I can't take my sedan, it ain't an SUV/CUV IMO.

 

You can actually take a model Y off road. I wouldn't recommend it, but I've seen in it outperform off-road vehicles in many situations, like in the sand. But again, it doesn't matter to me what it's classified as, as long as it does the specific job I bought it for

 

lol. i have no doubt the model Y can go places your s-class can't, but of course why not compare a 50k ev cuv with a 130k ice luxo sedan.

 

While on tax credits, they may be going away sooner than later. 8000 level 2 chargers were ordered to be immediately shut down in all federal buildings. On Friday, our building operations guy told me that one of the employees filed a complaint to management that she thought it was unfair to non EV owners to allow EV owners to charge at work . We had a good laugh at that one, because both the CEO and CFO drive EV'S

 

I would be able to do anything it can do in a model 3 or my S Class. It’s a function of ground clearance.

How? The Model Y doesn’t have any ground clearance. Wouldn’t be able to go anywhere I can’t go in my sedan. A CRV at least has more ground clearance. Model Y only has 1 inch more clearance than a Model 3. CRV has 2 more inches than the Model Y.

 

What a stupid thing to argue about, Model Y is legally classified as an SUV. As for ground clearance unless you go offroad it's a non issue.

 

Ground clearance helps with snow and the ease of driving an SUV, not worrying about parking curbs or steep driveway aprons etc. Like I say the MY is just a tall car, 6 inches of ground clearance no utility beyond a hatchback, can’t haul or tow anything, not enough ground clearance for deep snow or any serious off-road use, etc. Legal classification for size don’t move the needle for me. Those classifications would classify my Pacifica as an SUV…it’s not an SUV.

 

I have a feeling going forward ^^^ is gonna be something I can’t un-see with the model Y.

 

@SW17LS

 

What that picture doesn’t show you though is that the Rogue has nearly 2 inches more ground clearance than the Model Y. They’re physically about the same size, the Y may even be a little bit bigger but it lacks the capability of real crossover/SUVs.

Ive been looking. I can’t find many crossovers with ground clearance under 8 inches, the Model Y is 6.8 inches at its highest configuration and an Ioniq 5 is only 6.1. That Rogue is over 8. Grand Cherokee is 8.4.

 

I think the industry needs to separate crossovers from SUVs. Those wheels on the Y look larger than the Nissan. Imagine equal wheels?