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Old Feb 22, 2025 | 05:30 PM
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Some are speculating that the new Y has brake by wire based on the fact that the pedal no longer moves when using FSD. Think it was Lars Moravy that talked about an extra chamber, or some other feature in the master cylinder that allows this. Don't think it is actually brake by wire.
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Old Feb 22, 2025 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
I think it's downright tragic that many people will go out and buy any number of SUVs over the Y them being much inferior IMO.
Personally I don’t consider the Model Y an SUV, it’s a tall hatchback car. If I were considering an SUV I wouldn’t even think to consider a Y.
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Old Feb 22, 2025 | 06:45 PM
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According to several auto publications, the Model Y is considered a compact crossover SUV, same as a RAV4, Honda CR-V etc. Whatever it is, it's roomier than Sedans like the Model 3, Camry etc.
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Old Feb 22, 2025 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
whatever you can order right now. The big SUv. R1S.

the Rivian looks better. Has a much better interior. Some things are worth more. The new Y looks fantastic, but the pre refresh Y is not a very stylish. Enthusiast passion tells me most would prefer the Rivian
sounds like you'd better get one in the next 2 days though as prices are going up $10CDN there. that means a base R1S will be $120K CDN (top of line $160K).

https://www.carscoops.com/2025/02/ri...da-by-up-to-7k

model y new one launch edition (with every feature) is $85K CDN so R1S base is 40% more than loaded Y.

https://www.tesla.com/en_ca/modely/design

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Personally I don’t consider the Model Y an SUV, it’s a tall hatchback car. If I were considering an SUV I wouldn’t even think to consider a Y.
well your interest lies in big 3 row suvs. the model y though competes very favorably in space to most suv's.

even my ioniq 5 which is considered a cuv, shocks people with the space it has. its wheelbase is bigger than the palisade

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Old Feb 22, 2025 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
well your interest lies in big 3 row suvs. the model y though competes very favorably in space to most suv's.

even my ioniq 5 which is considered a cuv, shocks people with the space it has. its wheelbase is bigger than the palisade
We've been through this a lot, my interests are not only what I myself would purchase. I also don't consider the Ioniq 5 an SUV/CUV. To me these things feel more like modern VW Rabbits than they do an SUV.
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Old Feb 22, 2025 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Personally I don’t consider the Model Y an SUV, it’s a tall hatchback car. If I were considering an SUV I wouldn’t even think to consider a Y.
I have a hard time believing that the Model Y is not a crossover.
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It just doesn’t feel or look to me like a crossover.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
It just doesn’t feel or look to me like a crossover.
Is the Mach E a crossover?
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
It just doesn’t feel or look to me like a crossover.
Google disagrees with you
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Old Feb 22, 2025 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
Is the Mach E a crossover?
I wouldn’t consider it a crossover either.

Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Google disagrees with you
Don’t care lol. IMO a vehicle has to at least have some kind of off-road intentions or ability to be a crossover or SUV…
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I wouldn’t consider it a crossover either.
Don’t care lol. IMO a vehicle has to at least have some kind of off-road intentions or ability to be a crossover or SUV…
interesting. i'd say anything with a rear hatch door is a crossover/suv/cuv. there's trucks, sedans (dying), coupes (rare), and crossover/suv/cuv's (everywhere).

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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
interesting. i'd say anything with a rear hatch door is a crossover/suv/cuv. there's trucks, sedans (dying), coupes (rare), and crossover/suv/cuv's (everywhere).
Is a Tesla Model S a crossover? Audi A7? Mercedes EQS Sedan? All of those have hatches. One feature isn't enough to categorize it that way. To me its a feel thing.

Not Crossover/SUVs, but all have hatches:






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Originally Posted by SW17LS
It just doesn’t feel or look to me like a crossover.


The RX and the MY are about the same size. Perhaps the lowered floor and the perception is that it is a very tall hatch back?

Originally Posted by SW17LS
I wouldn’t consider it a crossover either.
I would agree the Mach E doesn’t look like a crossover. But the size is the same as the Y.

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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Is a Tesla Model S a crossover? Audi A7? Mercedes EQS Sedan? All of those have hatches. One feature isn't enough to categorize it that way. To me its a feel thing.

Not Crossover/SUVs, but all have hatches:





Model S and A7 styling both have held up VERY well.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Is a Tesla Model S a crossover? Audi A7? Mercedes EQS Sedan? All of those have hatches.
fair enough. I'll qualify by not a fastback hatch like those which are trying to do it all but don't really as cargo space isn't tall.

To me it's a feel thing.
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