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Old Jul 12, 2022 | 09:46 AM
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So here's what it boils down to: Will the 5thGenRX, with the 4CylTurbo91Octane engine cost the same or less, per mile, to fuel as the current 4thGenRx87Octane engine? Is the efficiency of the 4CylTurbo "enough" better to overcome the extra 15% (current here in Pittsburgh) cost of premium (vs regular)? I can't see how.
Is this an academic exercise?
The great majority of people buying luxury cars do not concern themselves with MPG, the manufacturers take it for granted that if one can afford
their product one can also afford the fuel. Now here in this forum many are concerned about this but we represent a very small speck of the buying public!
Maybe we can talk again in a while if the price of fuel keeps going up.
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Old Jul 12, 2022 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Cocal
Is this an academic exercise?
The great majority of people buying luxury cars do not concern themselves with MPG, the manufacturers take it for granted that if one can afford
their product one can also afford the fuel. Now here in this forum many are concerned about this but we represent a very small speck of the buying public!
Maybe we can talk again in a while if the price of fuel keeps going up.

Nope. Not just academic. I wanna know what I’m getting into. Will the new RX cost more to fuel than the old RX?
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Old Jul 13, 2022 | 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by toyotaman7
Power ratings of the same engines on Toyota vs Lexus, where they recommend premium fuel in Lexus is typically higher:

2019 Highlander Hybrid - 306hp; same powertrain in RX 450h with premium fuel: 308hp
2022 Tundra 3.5 Twin turbo (Regular Gas): 348-389hp - Lexus LX600 same engine, premium fuel: 409hp.
2023 Highlander 2.4L Turbo; Regular Fuel : 265hp; 2023 Lexus RX 2.4L Turbo - Premium Gas: 275HP

They do squeeze more hp out of the engine by changing the tuning which necessitates the premium fuel.
I believe this is why Lexus 'recommends' premium, but does not 'require' it on some of their engines. If regular is used, power drops to Toyota specs for that particular engine. We won't know what the requirements for the new RX are for sure until it is released. A little less power in this class of vehicle probably won't matter or be noticed by most owners of the RX.
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Old Jul 13, 2022 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by jer
I believe this is why Lexus 'recommends' premium, but does not 'require' it on some of their engines. If regular is used, power drops to Toyota specs for that particular engine. We won't know what the requirements for the new RX are for sure until it is released. A little less power in this class of vehicle probably won't matter or be noticed by most owners of the RX.
Isn’t 91 octane REQUIRED for this engine in the NX?
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Old Jul 13, 2022 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by daryll40
Isn’t 91 octane REQUIRED for this engine in the NX?
Yup 2.4L Turbo in NX is 91 REQUIRED
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Old Jul 13, 2022 | 01:11 PM
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To clarify my previous statement, looks like it may depend if it is a hybrid or not. For the NX350, premium required, NX350h, recommended but regular can be used.
Per the owners manuals:
NX350:NX350: Select premium unleaded gasoline with an octane rating of 91 (Research Octane Number 96) or higher required for optimum engine performance and fuel economy. If the octane rating is less than 91, damage to the engine may occur and may void the vehicle warranty.
NX350h:Recommended to use premium unleaded gasoline with octane rating of 91 (Research OctaneNumber of 96) or higher for optimum engine performance. You may use unleaded gasoline with octane rating as low as 87 (Research Octane Number of 91). In this case, engine performance may be decreased.

If the same holds true for the RX, the hybrid version should be able to run on regular.
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Originally Posted by jer
To clarify my previous statement, looks like it may depend if it is a hybrid or not. For the NX350, premium required, NX350h, recommended but regular can be used.
Per the owners manuals:
NX350:NX350: Select premium unleaded gasoline with an octane rating of 91 (Research Octane Number 96) or higher required for optimum engine performance and fuel economy. If the octane rating is less than 91, damage to the engine may occur and may void the vehicle warranty.
NX350h:Recommended to use premium unleaded gasoline with octane rating of 91 (Research OctaneNumber of 96) or higher for optimum engine performance. You may use unleaded gasoline with octane rating as low as 87 (Research Octane Number of 91). In this case, engine performance may be decreased.

If the same holds true for the RX, the hybrid version should be able to run on regular.
Yes, RX 350h only. I assume RX 500h would follow RX 350 for fuel recommendations
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Old Jul 14, 2022 | 05:42 AM
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From what I read here, the new RX base engine will get 24MPG vs 23MPG for the current:

http://www.thecarconnection.com/over...r%20all%20four

So it's 24MPG on premium gas vs 23 on regular gas now. The new vehicle will cost about 10% more to fuel. This might be a deal breaker for me. It just irritates me every time I buy gas.
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Old Jul 14, 2022 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by daryll40
From what I read here, the new RX base engine will get 24MPG vs 23MPG for the current:

http://www.thecarconnection.com/over...r%20all%20four

So it's 24MPG on premium gas vs 23 on regular gas now. The new vehicle will cost about 10% more to fuel. This might be a deal breaker for me. It just irritates me every time I buy gas.
Plus the fact that they really haven't changed much other than stuffing a smaller engine under the hood which requires premium fuel?? Fuggetaboutit
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Old Jul 14, 2022 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mikemu30
Plus the fact that they really haven't changed much other than stuffing a smaller engine under the hood which requires premium fuel?? Fuggetaboutit

RX5 is a completely new car. They changed everything.... Different platform, longer wheelbase etc...
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Old Jul 14, 2022 | 11:12 AM
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SO THANKFUL WE PULLED THE TRIGGER ON THE MRS. 2022 RX350L. AWD 6cyl.
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Old Jul 14, 2022 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by toyotaman7
RX5 is a completely new car. They changed everything.... Different platform, longer wheelbase etc...
I get that but to the average Joe, it doesn't look different and with no more V6 and the trade off being a new infotainment, I'm not in a rush to make the trade.
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Old Jul 14, 2022 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mikemu30
I get that but to the average Joe, it doesn't look different and with no more V6 and the trade off being a new infotainment, I'm not in a rush to make the trade.
Apparently inside it's like the NX only with better quality.
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Originally Posted by Cocal
Apparently inside it's like the NX only with better quality.
What is the sub-par quality issue(s) in the NX?
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Old Jul 14, 2022 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by daryll40
What is the sub-par quality issue(s) in the NX?
I didn't say that the NX was sub-par only that the RX being one notch up in price is of better quality.
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