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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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well, you won't pass a visual emissions inspection, which many states still do....

and the secondary cats rob like 1-2 hp, not much of a restriction really.
How would you not pass a visual emissions inspection? Not every car has a second set of CATs..
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by AZ JB
How would you not pass a visual emissions inspection? Not every car has a second set of CATs..
Because the inspection station should have a list of exactly what emissions controls the specific car they are inspecting should have on it when they enter the make/model/year into their computer.

How else could they possibly do the inspection, given the differing array of emissions hardware cars have had on them in the last couple decades.
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Originally Posted by Kurtz
Because the inspection station should have a list of exactly what emissions controls the specific car they are inspecting should have on it when they enter the make/model/year into their computer.

How else could they possibly do the inspection, given the differing array of emissions hardware cars have had on them in the last couple decades.
My question exactly.. I have never heard of that before. What a waste of time lol.
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by AZ JB
My question exactly.. I have never heard of that before. What a waste of time lol.
Yea that sucks!
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Thank god I live in FL haha
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by iSuxeL
Thank god I live in FL haha
Well, it's still illegal in FL, you just have no real way of being caught...

It just doesn't make a lot of sense to me to mess with the cats for 1-2 hp though... on my previous car, which made a lot more power than anything discussed in this thread, removing the cats was a bit more of a gain so it was worth the trouble (plus that car was loud as hell anyway so making it slightly louder wasn't an issue)
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 04:47 PM
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So whats the final word on hp increase?

Last edited by lobuxracer; Oct 29, 2009 at 05:05 PM. Reason: no sales related questions
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FYI you can't discuss pricing and availability here.
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Originally Posted by iSuxeL
FYI you can't discuss pricing and availability here.
some people just never learn
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 06isDriver
So whats the final word on hp increase?
I like your edit haha

To answer your question it's estimated at 16hp
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 07:12 PM
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so it is not 21 now? it is 16 instead ??
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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so it is not 21 now? it is 16 instead ??
The answer to your question:
Originally Posted by AZ JB
Wow, sorry guys, I just realized I mixed up my numbers. I fixed it though.

It's actually 16rwhp gain not 21rwhp.. I have NO idea where I got 21 from.

Anyways, sorry about that..
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 08:22 PM
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And then I corrected myself AGAIN

There was a PEAK on the dyno of 286. That was where I got the 21 from. The dyno SHOWS an increase of 16, however we saw a high of 21.
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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SAE, smoothing 5? Spikes don't count and only serve to confuse. Still 16 is a solid 5+% gain - nothing to sneeze at IMHO.
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 11:32 PM
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