I wonder if the gap between the pillar and the fender have anything to do with wind noise?

 

gary...

If you need to take the car in again for other than wind noise if no tsb update is released soon, and want to also ask they take another look at it for that: ask them not to use silicone spray but to try resetting all the gaskets with the addition of strips of that grey colored AC foam cut to fit channel of window where gasket sits inside, the kind of foam used on window unit AC. Your description of the noise rang a bell with me when I was describing my own with 350... quote below... My dad reset my gaskets mentioned with me offering assist.

I also see where the idea of design flaw comes from for some people: Dealers say it to owners, that's what dealer told me, nothing short of a redesign would fix it and also the quiet cabin story which people should NOT fall for as it is total BS.

 

I've been a member here for a while now, and I recently leased an '08 SWB. It has the laminated glass in the front windows. I previously had an '04 LS430, a GS430, GS400, and ES300. The new LS is a truly exceptional automobile and it outshines my '04 LS in almost every conceivable area. But it definitely has substantially more wind noise! It's a buffeting (not a whistling) kind of sound that kicks in at about 45-55 mph. The '04 was quieter at speed than the '08. I hope Lexus finds a fix that can be retrofitted to my car.

 

Okay, I have to chime in here...

I've read this "thread that will not die" continuously now, and I have to share my own experience.

I have an 07 SWB fully loaded that I purchased last July and I'm here to tell you that the car is absolutely fricken' QUIET! The car doesn't have road noise, it doesn't have the dreaded wind noise, it doesn't have engine noise, it doesn't have squeaks or rattles (at least not after I had the dash fix). The car is truly the quietest car I've ever had the luxury of riding in.

I have a business partner that has an 06 LS 430 fully loaded and I recently was asked to drive the car for him back to our offices and I can tell you with absolute certainty that the car is nowhere near as quiet as my 460. Not even close!! His car has very low mileage (17k) and he has taken great care of the car. Compared to my LS...it's a rattle trap and its styling on the interior felt CHEAP.

I've read posts by other members here who try to pass off the previous generation of LS's as a quieter automobile. Sorry to tell you...they are not. And, it's not even close. If you like the 430, then congrats. It's a wonderful automobile and you should enjoy the car. But, don't try to convince me that Lexus didn't make HUGE strides with the 460 over the previous generation.

If you're driving your 430 and you fail to hear wind noise like you claim you hear in the 460, it's because it's being drowned out by higher levels of engine noise and road noise in the cabin. Your ears just can't distinguish the "whooshing" sound over the other noise seeping into the cabin. Trust me, I know. I was shocked...SHOCKED at how much noisier my friend's 430 was.

There may be some 460 owners on here who have a real wind noise problem. But, I promise you, for the vast majority that post on this board, their 460 is definitely much quieter than the previous generation of LS's.

The 430 is definitely a nice ride, but I was soooo glad I waited for the 460 to purchase after spending 20 minutes in the 430.

 

I'm picking up a 07 LWB LS460 today and have an appointment for tint tomorrow. Having no idea whether I will have this "wind noise" issue or not I'm contemplating waiting on the tint if there is a TSB pending to fix the issue by installing the laminate glass found on the newer 08s. Thoughts?

 

If it's a LWB LS460L, then most of them in the U.S. market should have the laminated glass already I think, you should check whether yours have it first.

 

Even 07s? How would I determine the difference between laminate and non-laminate? Thanks!

 

Yes, even 07's, only the SWB did not have laminated glass as an option. I think it should say on the glass, you can ask your salesman to verify for you.

 

laminated glass are on almost all lwb since ls460l debut. that's why it's "one step" above the step i guess

look at the corner of the windows/glass where the lexus imprint is. it should say laminated or something like that (forgot). that means they are laminated. the normal glasses (take a look at a swb) and it should say tampered

 

Or just roll the window down halfway and look at the top edge of the glass ... laminated glass is made up of 2 pieces of glass glued (laminated) together, and you can see and feel the seam, which will feel like a little groove.

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Just to update everyone who is experiencing this problem.

I was told the dealer and the factory advisor have totally tapped all the door glass seals so it would be impossible for air to get in and they still heard the wind noise at 40mph.

They are focusing on the seem between the fender and the hood. Somehow they think it's starting from there and works it's way up the windshield.

 

Lamisafe & Temperlite...
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...+glass&page=10

 

Confirmed that the glass says Lamisafe. Also, happy to report that there was no noticeable wind noise while going to lunch with average speed around 65-70. This was on the 405 in Los Angeles on a sunny day so there was very little cross wind.

 

First the good news... had Huper Optik 40 tint installed yesterday and have been very impressed with the results.

Now the bad news... took a long drive from West Los Angeles to Newport Beach today with some friends and had the stereo off so that we could have a good conversation. This is when I started noticing the wooshing sound of wind near the area of the front window next to the side mirror. This was apparent on both the driver and passenger side of the car and can be best described as the sound of wind entering the cabin because the window doesn't seem to be closed completely. I checked the windows and they were indeed completely closed. I'll be calling South Bay Lexus tomorrow to make an appointment for the TSIB fix for wind noise.

This is on a 07 LS460L with laminate (lamisafe) glass. I'll let everyone know how it goes.

 

i can hear the wind noise so loud if it is a windy day( i have to turn my stereo up loud every time I am on the freeway.). my dealer said they can not do anything with it, I wan them to TSIB for my car, but they said I have laminate glass so I don't need the TSIB. .(THEY SAID the designers OF THE LS460 did not do the cross wind test for the LS460, they only test the front.) they told me to wait to see if Lexus comes up with anything for this issue.