Tires
Sadly, it looks like the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S are not available in this size anymore (at least on TireRack)? Odd since others in this thread have gotten them. TireRack shows the Vredestein Quactrac Pro+ as a possible option. I've seen great reviews on Vredestein's other tires though this one seems too new to have many reviews. Any thoughts?
I find it amusing that Lexus includes the "winter package" (seat/neck/steering wheel heaters and wiper blade deicers) in the touring package, has a "Snow mode drive selection" and then includes 21" wheels and UHP Run flat summer tires on the car that cannot be driven in colder temps. Isn't that the whole purpose of having a winter package
? Would not be so bad if there were a selection of alternate OEM approved Run flat all season tires as an option. Just saying...Unless someone can suggest a better option in 21" tires, it seems the only option (as mentioned by other members here) for non-high performance motivated drivers is the Michelin A/S 4 in upsized front 255/40/21's with the 275/35/21's in the back. Although the Michelin Primacy tour A/S does come in exact replacement 21" sizes, it probably does not show up as an option on Tire Rack or other sites because it has a lower speed rating than Lexus advises. Because of the weight and power of this car, maybe not the best choice. To get into all season's it seems I will have to give up Run flat option (which many people don't view as a negative), create an emergency trunk kit with an air pump, slime, plug kit and maybe a jack, plus have roadside assist coverage in a pinch. I have driven a Porsche for years that came with a factory pump and slime kit, no spare or run flat tires, so kind of used to taking that kind of puncture risk.
Open to hearing other options, as I have not found any yet.
You can bet your a** if I had to plug a LC tire on the roadside that hole would be in the Hardest to get to spot.
Plugged a front wheel of a loaded 600 lb motorcycle on the side of the road in Birmingham. I was younger then and it was no fun.
Bruce in Fl
You can bet your a** if I had to plug a LC tire on the roadside that hole would be in the Hardest to get to spot.
Plugged a front wheel of a loaded 600 lb motorcycle on the side of the road in Birmingham. I was younger then and it was no fun.
Bruce in Fl
I find it amusing that Lexus includes the "winter package" (seat/neck/steering wheel heaters and wiper blade deicers) in the touring package, has a "Snow mode drive selection" and then includes 21" wheels and UHP Run flat summer tires on the car that cannot be driven in colder temps. Isn't that the whole purpose of having a winter package
? Would not be so bad if there were a selection of alternate OEM approved Run flat all season tires as an option. Just saying...Unless someone can suggest a better option in 21" tires, it seems the only option (as mentioned by other members here) for non-high performance motivated drivers is the Michelin A/S 4 in upsized front 255/40/21's with the 275/35/21's in the back. Although the Michelin Primacy tour A/S does come in exact replacement 21" sizes, it probably does not show up as an option on Tire Rack or other sites because it has a lower speed rating than Lexus advises. Because of the weight and power of this car, maybe not the best choice. To get into all season's it seems I will have to give up Run flat option (which many people don't view as a negative), create an emergency trunk kit with an air pump, slime, plug kit and maybe a jack, plus have roadside assist coverage in a pinch. I have driven a Porsche for years that came with a factory pump and slime kit, no spare or run flat tires, so kind of used to taking that kind of puncture risk.
Open to hearing other options, as I have not found any yet.
I've always run Michelin's, except for the one time I tried Continentals on my IS300, but am intrigued by the Verdestein's. The prior iteration of the Quatrac Pro+ was rated well and the three peak mountain rating is a plus given my planned usage for them. Decisions decisions....
Last edited by BlueIS05; Sep 27, 2024 at 10:54 AM.
I sure don't want to have to try and find them on my back in the dark.
Bruce in Fl ThisAintYourDadsFordTaurus
Last edited by np20412; Sep 27, 2024 at 01:01 PM.
I've never seen Jack points as engineered as these. Pic is of front driver side (I have front end on jackstands awaiting dealer Michelin P5S tire replacement/install).
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Lou
so i think that's 255/40-21 and 285/35-21.
what are my options?
The OEM Michelin Pilot Sport S5 tires have tread widths of 7.5in front and 8.7in rear, compared to 8.6in front and 10.2in rear for the 4S tires. A noticeable improvement visually.
Last edited by FR680; Jan 11, 2025 at 06:00 PM.
I find it amusing that Lexus includes the "winter package" (seat/neck/steering wheel heaters and wiper blade deicers) in the touring package, has a "Snow mode drive selection" and then includes 21" wheels and UHP Run flat summer tires on the car that cannot be driven in colder temps. Isn't that the whole purpose of having a winter package
? Would not be so bad if there were a selection of alternate OEM approved Run flat all season tires as an option. Just saying...Unless someone can suggest a better option in 21" tires, it seems the only option (as mentioned by other members here) for non-high performance motivated drivers is the Michelin A/S 4 in upsized front 255/40/21's with the 275/35/21's in the back. Although the Michelin Primacy tour A/S does come in exact replacement 21" sizes, it probably does not show up as an option on Tire Rack or other sites because it has a lower speed rating than Lexus advises. Because of the weight and power of this car, maybe not the best choice. To get into all season's it seems I will have to give up Run flat option (which many people don't view as a negative), create an emergency trunk kit with an air pump, slime, plug kit and maybe a jack, plus have roadside assist coverage in a pinch. I have driven a Porsche for years that came with a factory pump and slime kit, no spare or run flat tires, so kind of used to taking that kind of puncture risk.
Open to hearing other options, as I have not found any yet.
Like you, I've found no AS or Winter tire options (at any price or speed rating) in OEM sizes except the Michelin Primacy. (What was Lexus thinking?) Is that what you went with? Does anyone know if any other oem option exists?











