Notices
IS - 2nd Gen (2006-2013) Discussion about the 2006+ model IS models

Engine knock

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 30, 2017 | 12:14 PM
  #1  
Mrfouche's Avatar
Mrfouche
Thread Starter
Rookie
 
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 68
Likes: 1
From: MO
Default Engine knock

So I now have an engine knock. Engine oil is new. It was going away after a little bit of the car warming up. I really don't want to take my car to the stealership because they want 150 an hour just to diagnose the issue and I don't want to pay that. I also stay in saint Louis and I don't know of what mechanics can look at the issue. Any help is appreciated
Reply
Old Aug 31, 2017 | 06:24 AM
  #2  
jr4div2's Avatar
jr4div2
Lead Lap
 
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 415
Likes: 28
From: PA
Default

Could be you're beginning to experience the carbon build-up issue. How many miles and what's the history on the car?
Reply
Old Aug 31, 2017 | 08:25 AM
  #3  
Mrfix's Avatar
Mrfix
Lead Lap
 
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 418
Likes: 66
From: Texas
Default

Originally Posted by Mrfouche
So I now have an engine knock. Engine oil is new. It was going away after a little bit of the car warming up. I really don't want to take my car to the stealership because they want 150 an hour just to diagnose the issue and I don't want to pay that. I also stay in saint Louis and I don't know of what mechanics can look at the issue. Any help is appreciated
Have you changed fuel recently? Like OP said, maybe carbon issue? Won't hurt to try a different brand of gas with higher octane and get some Seafoam and run it through your tank a few times. Do you know what cylinder it might be, you could check the spark plug to see what condition it is in. Check yelp or google for Import/Foreign car repair places in ST. Louis area, read reviews, etc. Could be a lot of different reasons, hard to tell.
Reply
Old Aug 31, 2017 | 12:15 PM
  #4  
Mrfouche's Avatar
Mrfouche
Thread Starter
Rookie
 
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 68
Likes: 1
From: MO
Default

Originally Posted by jr4div2
Could be you're beginning to experience the carbon build-up issue. How many miles and what's the history on the car?
It has 153k on it and the history has been spot on previous owner has taken it to the dealership for everything.
Reply
Old Aug 31, 2017 | 12:17 PM
  #5  
Mrfouche's Avatar
Mrfouche
Thread Starter
Rookie
 
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 68
Likes: 1
From: MO
Default

Originally Posted by Mrfix
Have you changed fuel recently? Like OP said, maybe carbon issue? Won't hurt to try a different brand of gas with higher octane and get some Seafoam and run it through your tank a few times. Do you know what cylinder it might be, you could check the spark plug to see what condition it is in. Check yelp or google for Import/Foreign car repair places in ST. Louis area, read reviews, etc. Could be a lot of different reasons, hard to tell.
I have been using the higher octane which is 93 where I'm at.
And I just ran some seafoam through the gas tank yesterday
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2017 | 05:51 AM
  #6  
jr4div2's Avatar
jr4div2
Lead Lap
 
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 415
Likes: 28
From: PA
Default

Originally Posted by Mrfouche
I have been using the higher octane which is 93 where I'm at.
And I just ran some seafoam through the gas tank yesterday
Unfortunately, the intake valves will never see a drop of the seafoam if you put it in the take. These are direct injection engines. Fuel goes straight into the cylinder. The valves only see PCV gases (nasty stuff which causes the build-up) and fresh air from the intake. The hard carbon will require some physical cleaning.
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2017 | 03:10 PM
  #7  
IamLexus's Avatar
IamLexus
Intermediate
15 Year Member
Photogenic
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 436
Likes: 6
From: Michigan
Default

Originally Posted by jr4div2
Unfortunately, the intake valves will never see a drop of the seafoam if you put it in the take. These are direct injection engines. Fuel goes straight into the cylinder. The valves only see PCV gases (nasty stuff which causes the build-up) and fresh air from the intake. The hard carbon will require some physical cleaning.
Was getting a estimation on spark plug maintenance and the mechanic said I should get a fuel system injection cleaning service to lessen the carbon-build up which is quoted at $130.00. Is this worth it or any beneficial at all?
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2017 | 06:50 AM
  #8  
jr4div2's Avatar
jr4div2
Lead Lap
 
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 415
Likes: 28
From: PA
Default

Originally Posted by IamLexus
Was getting a estimation on spark plug maintenance and the mechanic said I should get a fuel system injection cleaning service to lessen the carbon-build up which is quoted at $130.00. Is this worth it or any beneficial at all?
Depends on what this cleaning entails. Get him to explain the process. From all I've heard, it takes mechanical effort to remove the carbon, but maybe he does a soak or something.
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2017 | 01:43 PM
  #9  
IamLexus's Avatar
IamLexus
Intermediate
15 Year Member
Photogenic
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 436
Likes: 6
From: Michigan
Default

Originally Posted by jr4div2
Depends on what this cleaning entails. Get him to explain the process. From all I've heard, it takes mechanical effort to remove the carbon, but maybe he does a soak or something.
He gave me a description of

" 3-part fuel induction system service. Inspect air filter, vacuum hoses and PCV valve; Install 3-part fuel system cleaner to tank, throttle body, and fuel injectors."
"Part description
-FL112 Top Engine Cleaner
-S6304 Syntramax Fuel Tank
-FL110 Throttle Cleaner"
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2017 | 03:45 PM
  #10  
MikeFig82's Avatar
MikeFig82
Lead Lap
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 4,107
Likes: 787
From: Texas
Default

For $130 you can do it yourself. If your mechanically inclined. They are probably going to seafoam it. Drop another bottle in the gas tank. Clean your throttle body and replace your gasket. Which is about $13 TB + 2 cans of seafoam $14 = $27.
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2017 | 04:08 PM
  #11  
sktn77a's Avatar
sktn77a
Lead Lap
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,853
Likes: 407
From: Chapel Hill, NC
Default

Yes, it'll clean the injectors. But that's all. Grab a bottle of Techron, dump it in the tank - and save yourself $125.
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2017 | 04:17 PM
  #12  
Mrfix's Avatar
Mrfix
Lead Lap
 
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 418
Likes: 66
From: Texas
Default

Originally Posted by IamLexus
He gave me a description of

" 3-part fuel induction system service. Inspect air filter, vacuum hoses and PCV valve; Install 3-part fuel system cleaner to tank, throttle body, and fuel injectors."
"Part description
-FL112 Top Engine Cleaner
-S6304 Syntramax Fuel Tank
-FL110 Throttle Cleaner"
I would do it myself. The PCV is about $10 and the air filter is about $15-20. The kind of carbon build up you have with an IS250 is in the top end of the engine and it requires physical cleaning typically.

Here is a video about it.


There is someone who recently (3-6 months) took their vehicle for a cleaning to a shop that typically does Subaru or BMW's (not sure) but they did his Lexus. He posted the details here and you might try to search through the messages to find it.

I may have been Mike not sure that posted it.

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/mem...-mikeyk02.html

See if you can find someone in St Louis that can do walnut blasting (typically BMW, Subaru, VW vehicles).
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
amdinius
Maintenance
6
Apr 30, 2013 03:55 PM
stevenc
IS - 2nd Gen (2006-2013)
2
Jan 24, 2012 02:15 PM
AmirLexus
IS - 2nd Gen (2006-2013)
19
Dec 10, 2011 03:54 PM
j_version_
GS - 2nd Gen (1998-2005)
26
May 4, 2008 06:39 AM
gsfour
Performance
5
Nov 6, 2001 09:20 PM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:24 AM.