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Old Mar 15, 2024 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
I wonder if Toyota has ever had a lock linked to the door locks. Seems more complicated
Yes the 4th Gen RX did. I remember asking a Lexus rep at car show, it locks with the doors.
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Old Mar 15, 2024 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
I wonder if Toyota has ever had a lock linked to the door locks. Seems more complicated
Doesn't seem more complicated than having a separate dedicated electronic latch like our RX had, or a mechanical cable stretching from one corner of the vehicle to the other. Both of which would require a different design and parts for RHD vs. LHD models.
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Old Mar 15, 2024 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
How is that any different than a door pull inside?
Many newer cars don't have an interior release switch. The fuel filler door is spring loaded, and you press the door in and then it pops out. So you need a locking mechanism; there's a pin that locks the fuel filler door when all doors are locked.

But since your Toyota has an interior release, you don't need a separate locking pin, because when the car doors are locked, access to the release switch is not available.
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Old Mar 15, 2024 | 07:46 AM
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Doesn't seem more complicated than having a separate dedicated electronic latch like our RX had, or a mechanical cable stretching from one corner of the vehicle to the other. Both of which would require a different design and parts for RHD vs. LHD models.
My parents had an electric fuel door on their 1990s car. I remember it failed (among almost every other feature). I am sure a manual pull system does fail too
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Old Mar 15, 2024 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
so people can't steal your gas?
Or worse add something to it....when I was living at an apartment some kid shoved rocks/mulch in my Jeeps tank. I probably still have the rocks in the tank, I'll check if I need to replace the pump
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Old Mar 15, 2024 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Carfan94
I don’t think Lexus has programmable key fobs for memory settings, at least not on mine. My Volvo did however, one time I used the spare key the seat started moving in a strange position. Kind of annoying actually. GM and Acura key fobs used to have numbers on the back of them. Like #1 and #2.
They totally do, I use that feature on the 460
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Old Mar 15, 2024 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
How is that any different than a door pull inside?
Because I don't have to pull a lever and have a little plastic arm on the floorboard with a cable that can seize or snap off the arm. Plus every electronic locked or release car has a stainless bare cable with small handle hidden away in the trunk if the electric side goes down a you aren't screwed.
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Old Mar 15, 2024 | 08:56 AM
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Or worse add something to it....when I was living at an apartment some kid shoved rocks/mulch in my Jeeps tank. I probably still have the rocks in the tank, I'll check if I need to replace the pump
Someone I know in 1990s, the union members put sugar inside the tank of someone we know

Originally Posted by tex2670
Many newer cars don't have an interior release switch. The fuel filler door is spring loaded, and you press the door in and then it pops out. So you need a locking mechanism; there's a pin that locks the fuel filler door when all doors are locked.
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I like the lever over pushing the door in to pop it out. I think the push and pop out feature is a little tacky
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
I like the lever over pushing the door in to pop it out. I think the push and pop out feature is a little tacky
You are entitled to your opinion. I don't miss the release lever...same tech as my 1983 Honda had.
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Originally Posted by tex2670
You are entitled to your opinion. I don't miss the release lever...same tech as my 1983 Honda had.

Interesting. The Buick Avalon has pop out



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Originally Posted by geko29
What would be the rationale for having a locked fuel door at all?
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Late to the party so I may lack context in this discussion, but I can't stand cars that don't have locked fuel doors.

Know how easy it is to ruin a car that has an exposed filler/thingy??? And how easy it is for an automaker to just design the simplest of locks????

(not speaking at you)

In the MB it stays unlocked when the doors are.

Both Lexus vehicles have locks.
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Both of my cars lock the fuel door when the doors are locked and it presses to open when the doors are unlocked.
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Late to the party so I may lack context in this discussion, but I can't stand cars that don't have locked fuel doors.

Know how easy it is to ruin a car that has an exposed filler/thingy??? And how easy it is for an automaker to just design the simplest of locks????
You have no quarrel with me on this point, absolutely a context thing. I was responding to “What would be the rationale to lock the fuel door with the doors looking?” with the question you quoted, as a way to point out the answer is the same.

And yes I do. I’ve had a vehicle disabled by having a foreign substance (we believe it was motor oil) dumped in an unlocked tank. Cost about $1800 to fix, almost 20 years ago.
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Originally Posted by geko29
You have no quarrel with me on this point, absolutely a context thing. I was responding to “What would be the rationale to lock the fuel door with the doors looking?” with the question you quoted, as a way to point out the answer is the same.

And yes I do. I’ve had a vehicle disabled by having a foreign substance (we believe it was motor oil) dumped in an unlocked tank. Cost about $1800 to fix, almost 20 years ago.
It's just, an owner might as well have the hood open... it's that easy to sabotage a vehicle through the gas fill, obviously. (So why don't they get it?)
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Late to the party so I may lack context in this discussion, but I can't stand cars that don't have locked fuel doors.

Know how easy it is to ruin a car that has an exposed filler/thingy??? And how easy it is for an automaker to just design the simplest of locks????

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Cadillac used to have an electric door. There was a solenoid, a couple couple other solenoids, etc. there was a fuse inside the fuse box dedicated for that part. And if I remember correctly, the valet mode locked that part out




‘I wonder what the RX is like. I never knew it had an electric lock




Lexus GS had it. Apparently Pontiac in the mid 2000s. Ls460

wonder who else? Anyone know?




In the MB it stays unlocked when the doors are.
do you have to pop the door panel?

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