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Old May 8, 2023 | 01:16 PM
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Yep, still prefer push button. Don't have to take anything out of my pocket, ever. Want to listen to the radio? Just push the button, no need to insert and turn the key. All 3 of our cars work this way (BMW, Audi, Nissan), not sure what's wrong with the LX.
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Originally Posted by AJT123
I really think I prefer having a key versus push button ignition, my mind didn’t change on that one.

I never really warmed to it, even when it was new.

I like old fashioned ignitions you just turn the key one notch left and then you still have your radio etc when parking or waiting etc etc. In LX it’s a stupid procedure to get it into accessory mode.

Not to mention the satisfaction of expensive feeling ignition locks and keys.


I prefer the key as well. I have 3 with a key and one push button. Only Toyotas and Lexus models have a light on the push bottom..never models omit the light
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I do understand how some people can still like the key, but for myself, I would never want to go back to that.
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Originally Posted by geko29
Yep, still prefer push button. Don't have to take anything out of my pocket, ever. Want to listen to the radio? Just push the button, no need to insert and turn the key. All 3 of our cars work this way (BMW, Audi, Nissan), not sure what's wrong with the LX.
Nothing wrong per se but when you hit the button it cycles completely off to get into accessory mode then you have to hit it again and it all cycles.. As opposed to just turning the key left one notch.
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Nothing wrong per se but when you hit the button it cycles completely off to get into accessory mode then you have to hit it again and it all cycles.. As opposed to just turning the key left one notch.
In 2 of our 3 cars, the radio stays on when you turn the car off, until you open a door or a timer expires (I think it's 5 minutes). Then just tap it again to put it back into accessory with no timer. Nothing "restarts", it just continues playing right where it was.

In my E90, the radio does stop when you turn the car off, but again, a double-tap instead of a single will keep it in accessory mode. Which if you think about it, is really no different than turning the key two clicks instead of one.
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‘Is this not the best GM pick up truck design? I have always liked this design. Thoughts?
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Originally Posted by geko29
In 2 of our 3 cars, the radio stays on when you turn the car off, until you open a door or a timer expires (I think it's 5 minutes). Then just tap it again to put it back into accessory with no timer. Nothing "restarts", it just continues playing right where it was.

In my E90, the radio does stop when you turn the car off, but again, a double-tap instead of a single will keep it in accessory mode. Which if you think about it, is really no different than turning the key two clicks instead of one.
Admittedly I'm picking. I think I just hit the button twice and I'll get accessory mode, but the wheel retracts and comes out again, goofy in the LX.

Also what I love about at least LS430 key, the power wheel starts to come at you the second the key touches the ignition. While you literally insert the key and crank the car, the wheel is basically out, coming out by then. Clever touch. I noticed that during the test drive, my god....in 2012?

Just the whole thing, key and ignition feel both feel very expensive and solid. The LS beats the Benz by a little bit here.

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Old May 8, 2023 | 03:40 PM
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‘Is this not the best GM pick up truck design? I have always liked this design. Thoughts?

Generally agree. And GMC pickups, as a rule, at least IMO, are styled a little better than Chevys.
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Old May 8, 2023 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Generally agree. And GMC pickups, as a rule, at least IMO, are styled a little better than Chevys.
It's either these or the next ones, the GMT 800s that I feel were the best.

GMT800s had bad interior but were workhorses and very reliable, ours was. It never had any maintenance, ever in 20 years, and never broke down on me. Still working A/C both Lexus vehicles could only dream of touching. At least double the fan speed in the front.
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I perfer a real key, the proximity functions are great and all but I like a physical lock system and the feel of using it. The push start systems mostly feel the same and there is a cheapness to a lot of them, my Audis have metal buttons at least but I would have liked them to have separate start/stop buttons like on the D3 W12...

The separation of functions adds an air of occasion to the event of lighting off a 500+ HP engine IMO in the same way a physical key does. It elevates the experience, convenience isn't everything and this constant push to save effort and time just cheapens life. It also reeks of a society that is never able to take any time and appreciate things
Old May 8, 2023 | 05:14 PM
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In my daily cars, there is no air of occasion lol. Convenience wins. For my wife, before push button start cars where basically all you had, she flat refused to buy any car without a keyless start because she hated digging around in her purse for her keys, can't say I blame her.

Plenty of things I appreciate in my life, a key isn't one of them.
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Shows you my gas cheapness. This is this evening as I parked in the garage. Can’t get gas tonight, 20c Tuesday is tomorrow!



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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Shows you my gas cheapness. This is this evening as I parked in the garage. Can’t get gas tonight, 20c Tuesday is tomorrow!


‘You are hilarious
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I had to take dry cleaning over and drop it in the night box, I drove the van in case I ran out of gas lol
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I like to save money on gas too. But not to that extreme. I do remember it was almost $125US to fill up my 4Runner at one time.



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