Tesla Model S Plaid
Thanks for sharing Hameed! Car looks awesome.
as for current s owners feeling 'betrayed' it wasn't a more extensive re-design, that makes no sense to me... i would have thought existing owners would be thrilled it's still largely the same looks so their own cars aren't 'obsolete'. but some people just have to be butt hurt no matter what.
i don't care for the yoke and lack of controls, i think there's some usability issues there, but still... amazing car.
as for current s owners feeling 'betrayed' it wasn't a more extensive re-design, that makes no sense to me... i would have thought existing owners would be thrilled it's still largely the same looks so their own cars aren't 'obsolete'. but some people just have to be butt hurt no matter what.
i don't care for the yoke and lack of controls, i think there's some usability issues there, but still... amazing car.
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I disagree. I think they are pursuing minimalism to the nth degree so removing the stalks is just a design decision. Adding capacitive ability on the steering wheels and beneath the wireless charging ports for gear selecting is probably more expensive than having the stalks.
...These moves are to save money....Tesla is smart to save money by moving so much to software....no more rain wiper stalk or switch...to you move it to the screen...just like HVAC controls...no more buttons...all software...Toyota did it with their new NX... I think the Toyota BZ with the yoke is absent the lane change stalk as well
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Minimalism is just the marketing tag....Toyota is doing to...but they are doing it in different ways...for example...no more cruise control stalks on TNGA products...now on the steering wheel ...These moves are to save money....Tesla is smart to save money by moving so much to software....no more rain wiper stalk or switch...to you move it to the screen...just like HVAC controls...no more buttons...all software...Toyota did it with their new NX... I think the Toyota BZ with the yoke is absent the lane change stalk as well
...These moves are to save money....Tesla is smart to save money by moving so much to software....no more rain wiper stalk or switch...to you move it to the screen...just like HVAC controls...no more buttons...all software...Toyota did it with their new NX... I think the Toyota BZ with the yoke is absent the lane change stalk as well
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The stalks are extremely cheap to implement though. Capacitive buttons that run along the wireless charger are probably more expensive. Overall, I agree that removing physical objects saves money in the long run but this particular decision seems more of a design philosophy decision vs cost cutting. .
I'm not attacking Tesla
Another brilliant cost saving move was to put the automatic steering wheel button into the steering wheel instead of the shaft. My 04 4Runner has to separate levers for the tilt (made of metal and embossed with tilt and a plastic tip) and telescoping steering....two totally different places...my 21 4R has just one that serves a dual purpose.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; Jun 15, 2021 at 04:05 PM.
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I would crash my car with a wheel like that no matter what it was, Tesla, Lexus, Chevy! I'd be driving in some mall parking lots for weeks on end trying to get used to it. That is simply unsafe.
Put a HALF of a steering wheel in a car that runs 155MPH in the quarter mile? Gonna be lots of dead people.
Put a HALF of a steering wheel in a car that runs 155MPH in the quarter mile? Gonna be lots of dead people.
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Seeing the auto forward/reverse feature in action that is neat as heck.
......if someone is in front and back of the car it won't decide and makes you do it.
......if someone is in front and back of the car it won't decide and makes you do it.
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Regardless of the yoke I wonder how many people will wreck these things. It’s not like controlling a 9 second car when accelerating is easy. People that haven’t driven or aren’t used to the quickness of a 9 second car, me included, could be a recipe for disaster.
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Thanks for sharing Hameed! Car looks awesome.
as for current s owners feeling 'betrayed' it wasn't a more extensive re-design, that makes no sense to me... i would have thought existing owners would be thrilled it's still largely the same looks so their own cars aren't 'obsolete'. but some people just have to be butt hurt no matter what.
i don't care for the yoke and lack of controls, i think there's some usability issues there, but still... amazing car.
as for current s owners feeling 'betrayed' it wasn't a more extensive re-design, that makes no sense to me... i would have thought existing owners would be thrilled it's still largely the same looks so their own cars aren't 'obsolete'. but some people just have to be butt hurt no matter what.
i don't care for the yoke and lack of controls, i think there's some usability issues there, but still... amazing car.