Lexus human interface issues and climate control discussion
#91
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#93
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Edit, looks like the LC has that button missing as well. I understand the two top models have climate concierge, so perhaps that is their reasoning.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 01-24-19 at 06:46 PM.
#94
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Of course. I would take a LS as well. So what is the legit justification for not having the directional airflow button? I willing to listen to a good well thought out reason. Perhaps those buying this car migh have a complete auto mode? Does the hvac have something different in the system vs a Lexus ES?
#95
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I agree it's not as bad as some make, including myself. However, if one is not careful, Toyota can really pull the plug on a few things that some deem essential. It maybe minor to some, but as time goes by it gets worse. Case in point, I am old enough to remember my husbands 80s Toyota truck, drivers seat came with 10 way manual seats plus lumber and bolstering, today you get a 6 way with no height (unacceptable). Same with my 4Runner vs my mothers, they removed a few details here and there.
#96
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And it doesn't matter because theres no reason to change those functions since the car just does it for you lol
#97
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Then why even give the option to change the flow in remote touch? Whats the reason that a 460 can change the flow with a hard button whereas you lose it in a 500?
#98
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I'm just picking on you at this point lol
The option is there, its just not something they intend most owners to do manually. You can only have so many buttons, so you have to prioritize what you do with buttons and what you do with the screen, and the buttons are meant to be functions most people will use, and if you look at what they pick it makes sense.
Also on the widescreen remote touch, the climate controls are just a click away, or you can use the voice commands to say "climate" and everything comes right up.
As to why the 460 can? Honestly I don't know if it can I've never tried. As design moves forward and they get feedback, they make changes. The fact that I have owned two LS460s and I couldnt even tell you if there was a hard button shows you why they removed those buttons.
The option is there, its just not something they intend most owners to do manually. You can only have so many buttons, so you have to prioritize what you do with buttons and what you do with the screen, and the buttons are meant to be functions most people will use, and if you look at what they pick it makes sense.
Also on the widescreen remote touch, the climate controls are just a click away, or you can use the voice commands to say "climate" and everything comes right up.
As to why the 460 can? Honestly I don't know if it can I've never tried. As design moves forward and they get feedback, they make changes. The fact that I have owned two LS460s and I couldnt even tell you if there was a hard button shows you why they removed those buttons.
#100
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Seems odd that the ES would include it. But not the LS. So now in the LS500, delete the fancy buttons for powered seat belts, delete the hvac flow button, remove the ease of heating your seats. Etc etc.
#101
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Here are the LS460's HVAC Controls:
And the LS500s HVAC controls:
The button thats missing is that button in the middle with the defrost and the panel and floor. I've never pressed that button. According to the manual its the "Air Outlet Selector" so I would imagine it does cycle through the modes.
And the LS500s HVAC controls:
The button thats missing is that button in the middle with the defrost and the panel and floor. I've never pressed that button. According to the manual its the "Air Outlet Selector" so I would imagine it does cycle through the modes.
#102
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Here are the LS460's HVAC Controls:
And the LS500s HVAC controls:
The button thats missing is that button in the middle with the defrost and the panel and floor. I've never pressed that button. According to the manual its the "Air Outlet Selector" so I would imagine it does cycle through the modes.
And the LS500s HVAC controls:
The button thats missing is that button in the middle with the defrost and the panel and floor. I've never pressed that button. According to the manual its the "Air Outlet Selector" so I would imagine it does cycle through the modes.
#103
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Lighten up, it was supposed to be funny. Everything doesn't have to be so serious.
The buttons for the seatbelt anchors I agree with you, thats a cost cutting thing I miss. I also agree the heated seats should have a hard button.
The current ES does still have that button, I looked it up. Why did they remove it in the LS and not the ES? Older clientele for the ES? More room horizontally across that panel for the ES?
The current ES does still have that button, I looked it up. Why did they remove it in the LS and not the ES? Older clientele for the ES? More room horizontally across that panel for the ES?
#104
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Yet I'm the one who's bought 4 LS sedans and you've bought none. Thats the point, I didn't even know that button existed until you pointed it out to me...so how can you say they were wrong for removing it? I'm the one who's consumer for this product...
#105
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