Lexus human interface issues and climate control discussion
#61
Lexus Champion
I tried Slacker, but have had no luck with it at all.
It never just starts up when I start the car, so I have to go into the media menu and pull it up. And I usually only get 3 or 4 songs out of it then it just stops and won't play anymore, getting stuck on a screen that says "Preparing". Not sure if it's an issue with my car or my phone, but it simply doesn't work for me. I've been going through the hassle of Pandora through Bluetooth on my phone. It works, but it's hardly convenient.
It never just starts up when I start the car, so I have to go into the media menu and pull it up. And I usually only get 3 or 4 songs out of it then it just stops and won't play anymore, getting stuck on a screen that says "Preparing". Not sure if it's an issue with my car or my phone, but it simply doesn't work for me. I've been going through the hassle of Pandora through Bluetooth on my phone. It works, but it's hardly convenient.
#62
drives cars
To be honest, I used Pandora in the app all the time. Now I have to remember to pull my phone out and start Pandora before setting off. It was nice to have it just start on its own - not to mention the ability to easily like/dislike/skip songs while driving, and use the steering wheel controls to change stations. Even though it failed to start maybe 30% of the time, which was annoying, I still miss it.
I might have to take a look at Slacker... but it sounds like it might have similar issues to the old Pandora.
edit: Oh, and the unlimited skips and lack of ads were also nice.
I might have to take a look at Slacker... but it sounds like it might have similar issues to the old Pandora.
edit: Oh, and the unlimited skips and lack of ads were also nice.
#63
Lexus Fanatic
I tried Slacker, but have had no luck with it at all.
It never just starts up when I start the car, so I have to go into the media menu and pull it up. And I usually only get 3 or 4 songs out of it then it just stops and won't play anymore, getting stuck on a screen that says "Preparing". Not sure if it's an issue with my car or my phone, but it simply doesn't work for me. I've been going through the hassle of Pandora through Bluetooth on my phone. It works, but it's hardly convenient.
It never just starts up when I start the car, so I have to go into the media menu and pull it up. And I usually only get 3 or 4 songs out of it then it just stops and won't play anymore, getting stuck on a screen that says "Preparing". Not sure if it's an issue with my car or my phone, but it simply doesn't work for me. I've been going through the hassle of Pandora through Bluetooth on my phone. It works, but it's hardly convenient.
#64
Lexus Champion
I do believe I have the latest Enform app. I'll go double check, thanks for the suggestion. I also hadn't thought about starting it over voice command, so I'll give that a try.
#65
Lexus Fanatic
Yeah, way better than going through the menus to find it.
#66
Lexus Champion
I checked and do have the most current app. Guess I'll just stick with Pandora through my phone.
#67
Lexus Fanatic
Weird......
#68
Lexus Champion
#69
Lexus Fanatic
#70
Lexus Fanatic
That is not the A/C off switch. Turning the HVAC off is not the same as turning off the A/C and leaving the HVAC on. There is a difference.
Actually you are incorrect. You can use the system in either automated or in manual mode.
Actually you are incorrect. You can use the system in either automated or in manual mode.
#71
Lexus Fanatic
Jill, you can I are on the same page for Auto climate control. I absolutely hate auto, as all it seems to do is blow the fan way too hard. On a regular day, I have to make the temperature much higher just to get it to blow at a lower speed. I never understood auto climate and find it just fine to adjust everything myself
Way easier to do when you are in manual mode.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 01-11-19 at 01:25 PM.
#72
Lexus Fanatic
Hard A/C off switches are just not a typical thing in the industry. You feel they are because you've driven Toyota products for so long, but other vehicles I've owned and own with automatic climate control do not and have not had a button to turn the AC compressor off.
Actually you are incorrect. You can use the system in either automated or in manual mode.
#73
Lexus Fanatic
No A/C button to quickly turn off the Air conditioning compressor is a cost cutting method as well as a serious omission.
#74
Lexus Fanatic
Lol. ^^^ this makes no sense. You can turn the HVAC off or the fan off. It’s the same thing. However, in my CT and the current IS, you can leave the HVAC on while turning off the A/C with a hard button. It’s better. Having no hard button and forcing the use of the remote touch mouse is just plain dumb.
Unless you're like most people and you never choose to turn the A/C compressor off. It would never even occur to me to turn the A/C compressor off. It removes the need for one button on the dash, so I prefer it that way.
LOL. It’s designed for either or. It is perfectly intuitive to use the system if there were a hard button or a digital press button like in the Land Cruiser. In the LX570 you have to go though the mouse.
No A/C button to quickly turn off the Air conditioning compressor is a cost cutting method as well as a serious omission.
A "serious omission" for you, I'm happy they got rid of it because its a button I never use. So, I consider it an improvement. I'd like to see them do away with the fan speed hard buttons too since I never use those either. Seeing that I bought the car and you would never buy one, who's opinion do you think they care about?
#75
I own both 3GS and 4GS with touch screen and remote touch respectively.
Remote touch is okay, and I can live with it, but it tends to "overshoot" the desired icon, because Lexus' 5-way joystick with left/right/up/down/enter cannot move 1-icon at a time unlike 7-way rotary jog dials.
The 7-way rotary jog dial can be rotated clockwise/anti-clockwise with detents to more accurately move only 1-icon at a time, without over-shooting.
To really take advantage of the remote touch system, manufacturers should combine remote touch with headup display.
The main advantage of touch screens is that we can simply touch the desired icon directly without having to more slowly pass unwanted icons one at a time through a mechanical control.
However, this design requires a touch screen below the windscreen and within arm's reach.
In truth, motor vehicles could be and should be designed with both touchscreens, and a remote touch 7-way jog dial with headup display right in the center of the front windscreen.
It's not that different to having both an instrument panel in front of the steering wheel, and a head up display directly above the instrument panel and steering wheel...
Remote touch is okay, and I can live with it, but it tends to "overshoot" the desired icon, because Lexus' 5-way joystick with left/right/up/down/enter cannot move 1-icon at a time unlike 7-way rotary jog dials.
The 7-way rotary jog dial can be rotated clockwise/anti-clockwise with detents to more accurately move only 1-icon at a time, without over-shooting.
To really take advantage of the remote touch system, manufacturers should combine remote touch with headup display.
The main advantage of touch screens is that we can simply touch the desired icon directly without having to more slowly pass unwanted icons one at a time through a mechanical control.
However, this design requires a touch screen below the windscreen and within arm's reach.
In truth, motor vehicles could be and should be designed with both touchscreens, and a remote touch 7-way jog dial with headup display right in the center of the front windscreen.
It's not that different to having both an instrument panel in front of the steering wheel, and a head up display directly above the instrument panel and steering wheel...
Last edited by peteharvey; 01-12-19 at 06:29 PM.