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Old Apr 1, 2018 | 10:02 AM
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That's the thing about the XT4. From the pix, it looks like they are using a different font, or something. This interior, from the less-than-detailed pix, looks to me like a vast improvement over ATS/CTS interiors. Of course, I reserve judgment until I can see in more detail.
Just looking at the pictures though, I don't care for the look or the layout of it.
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Old Apr 1, 2018 | 12:40 PM
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What did you think of the 7Gen Malibu's interior? I thought that was one of the best interiors GM did in modern times.....more so than in the newest Malibus. It also came in monotone for those who didn't care for the two-tone.




It is a nice GM interior as far as looks go, quality was a little lagging, better then the new Malibu. I liked some Buick interiors, the 2nd Gen Caddy CTS interior was one of the better designs from GM though its quality was not very good. For older GM interiors I like the last Buick Riviera and original Oldsmobile Aurora, those were pretty cool, Old and Buick had a few other ones around that time that looked pretty good. GM is pretty lacking when it comes to interiors though, never really cared much for their interior designs and normally even the better designs were pretty cheap when you felt them. I think Lincolns had a few decent interiors, the new Navigator and Aviator look nice, Chrysler had a few that looked alright. Eagle and Murker were decent back in the 80's and 90's.
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Old Apr 1, 2018 | 04:57 PM
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Are you serious? That interior is the perfect example of GM hideousness IMHO.

That’s one of the crappiest interiors they’ve ever made...
I don’t know if I would say it is one of the crappiest interiors they have ever made, but GM didn’t not gain any ground or change any perceptions of the GM with this interior from people who do not or would not consider the GM brand. Other terrible interiors of that era was the Impala.


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Old Apr 1, 2018 | 05:02 PM
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It is a nice GM interior as far as looks go, quality was a little lagging, better then the new Malibu. I liked some Buick interiors, the 2nd Gen Caddy CTS interior was one of the better designs from GM though its quality was not very good. For older GM interiors I like the last Buick Riviera and original Oldsmobile Aurora, those were pretty cool, Old and Buick had a few other ones around that time that looked pretty good. GM is pretty lacking when it comes to interiors though, never really cared much for their interior designs and normally even the better designs were pretty cheap when you felt them. I think Lincolns had a few decent interiors, the new Navigator and Aviator look nice, Chrysler had a few that looked alright. Eagle and Murker were decent back in the 80's and 90's.
Its a tough call on GM. There are people who buy the GM brand of cars who really like the designs and materials. I don’t mind GM interiors or designs, I really liked the stuff back in the 80s. I find some of their current stuff interesting. I dont really subscribe to one brand is better or stuff like that, I don’t like the idea of “oh it’s more solid than that car or that brand”. Brands today are all pretty good for their first few years. But perceptions are really really difficult to change and I don’t think GM will ever succeed with their cars
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Old Apr 1, 2018 | 05:17 PM
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If we are to take this as true, that THIS is one of the best GM interiors, then you are making everyone else's argument for them.
All I did was ask a question. I happened to have liked it....still do today. If some people disagree....fine.
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I don’t know if I would say it is one of the crappiest interiors they have ever made, but GM didn’t not gain any ground or change any perceptions of the GM with this interior from people who do not or would not consider the GM brand. Other terrible interiors of that era was the Impala.


No arguments there. The last-generation Impala was a piece of junk. The current one is an enormous improvement....though I don't particularly like the way they styled the dash.
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Old Apr 1, 2018 | 05:22 PM
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Anyhow, back to the XT4. Cadillac has updated their American-market website now to add some of the details. Others are yet to be released.

https://www.cadillac.com/future-conc.../xt4-crossover
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Anyhow, back to the XT4. Cadillac has updated their American-market website now to add some of the details. Others are yet to be released.

https://www.cadillac.com/future-conc.../xt4-crossover
I would seriously consider this vehicle. BUT, I'm not ready to pay a price for a Caddy that's on par with BMW, Audi or MB. It would have to be a "good deal" for this car to convince me to get it. Caddy has yet to show me that they are worth it.

But, by the time I'm in the market for a new car, there will be a new Q3, which I have high expectations of, based on recent Audi vehicles.
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Originally Posted by tex2670
I would seriously consider this vehicle. BUT, I'm not ready to pay a price for a Caddy that's on par with BMW, Audi or MB. It would have to be a "good deal" for this car to convince me to get it. Caddy has yet to show me that they are worth it.

But, by the time I'm in the market for a new car, there will be a new Q3, which I have high expectations of, based on recent Audi vehicles.
Audi, according to both Consumer Reports and J.D. Power, ranks considerably higher than Cadillac in overall brand reliability. Audi also has a long-standing reputation for nice fit/finish, paint jobs, and interior trim/hardware....IMO the best of any mass-produced European automaker, although Volvo, particularly on the XC90, has recently shown major improvement in this area.
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SEATTLE, Wash. — The 2019 Cadillac XT4 compact crossover debuted in New York, Cadillac's recently-adopted home, several months ago. Since then, a lot's changed. Cadillac honcho Johan de Nysschen got the boot, the economy's continued to improve, and we've changed coasts to experience the XT4. The setting is Seattle and its environs, a place that embodies the moment – a town flush with tech money and outdoor lifestyle experiences. Oh, and traffic. Lots of that.

What hasn't changed is that this is a vehicle that Cadillac desperately needs. Between and below the Escalade and XT5 are vast gulfs of white space that could swallow entire crossover-focused brands. The dealers, we imagine, howled. And de Nysschen was replaced, it turns out, by a career GM exec with a penchant for building bridges with dealers. Must be a coincidence.

The XT4 should please everybody involved in that power struggle. It's cute, for one, which will make for happier dealer-customer interactions. It brings appreciable but unintimidating technological advances to a brand looking to flex some segment leadership muscles. And it doesn't strictly feel like a rebadged version of a lower-tier product, a bad habit that Cadillac keeps failing to kick. We'll discuss its competition within its segment, and how they compare to the XT4, in another piece to follow.

If you're wondering where the XT4 comes from, the easiest way to think about it is as a cut-down version of the basic underpinnings of the XT5, wrapped in nicely-proportioned sheetmetal. To be blunt, there's more unadorned plastic on the lower fascia and rockers than we'd like at this price point, but the rest is handsome. Large, elegant lamps sit at both ends, set off with trendy creasing and little accent vents – Sport models have clear taillight elements, while others have red-tinted lenses. The XT5, itself a newer vehicle, looks outclassed and dated instantly when put up next to its sleeker, more modern little sibling.

The interior, however, is more alike than different. The major shapes are similar, as are the placement of the switchgear. The 8.0-inch infotainment screen is, as in the XT5, embedded in a slabby wedge of dash. It's still a touchscreen, but a little dial now provides an alternate way to navigate. A Qi charging panel and easily accessible, but not too prominent, USB, charging, and aux inputs reside just above. The seats in our tester, a Premium Luxury trim, are covered in a soft, warm caramel-colored leather. Major ergonomics – wheel placement, size, pedal box, shifter – are good enough to recede entirely from thought after a couple of minute adjustments. This is a not a car you fidget in – unless the forward collision warning goes off, which it does frequently and erroneously, seemingly at random. At least it keeps you alert! The base trim level doesn't get any of the XT4's optional active safety features, so if this concerns you save some dough and get a Luxury.

More importantly, like the XT5, it doesn't feel much like a Chevy with its badges taped over. A few cheap touches distract, and there's a very un-Lexus-like rattle somewhere in the guts of the B-pillar by my ear, but on the whole it's a convincing premium proposition. Cadillac is so close to overcoming closest competitors' interior experiences. Maybe in a product cycle or two, in an alternate universe, de Nysschen could have done it.

For the present, the most important thing Cadillac needed to do with the XT4 was improve refinement. Anyone that's driven the old 2.0-liter turbocharged inline-four knows that it's not a smooth operator. Cadillac canned it. Under the hood is a next-generation unit, and to get the controversial aspect out of the way, it's significantly detuned – down 15 horsepower and 2 pound-feet of torque from the version of the old engine found in the Chevy Equinox. It's an even starker contrast with the longitudinal configuration unit found in the ATS, which is rated at 272 hp and 295 lb-ft. Some buyers will not be able to look past this. That, I think, would be a damn shame.

In the XT4, the new engine makes 237 hp and 258 lb-ft. The downgrade in power is partly due to some internal differences. The old engine was a "square" arrangement – the bore and stroke were equal, but the new engine is a long-stroke design, with a bore of 83 mm and a stroke of 92.3 mm. More stroke generally means more torque, and while the new engine is down on power, it's more efficient and refined – and there's plenty of juice off the line.

There's some neat fuel-saving tech built into the new motor, too. Caddy claims up to 15 percent greater fuel economy in some load ranges. This is due in part to the technologies bundled together with a throwback name: Tripower, which will also be found in GM's new 2.7-liter truck engine. These are novel cylinder deactivation and variable lift systems, once the purview of V-type engines, now applied to inline-fours. There are three lift profiles available on the intake side – high, low, and off. Off is cylinder deactivation, disabling two cylinders in light load conditions. It is entirely imperceptible to the driver.

It's tough to convince people that taking power away is in their best interest, but here, the remarkable increase in refinement and not-insubstantial increases in fuel economy are worth the power penalty. Pushed, the engine doesn't lose its composure. We climbed up into the Cascade Mountains for a bit. As the grade increases and the air thins, semis on the busy trucking route put on flashers and become rolling roadblocks. The XT4, with a twin-scroll turbo feeding air at more than atmospheric pressure, had no trouble squirting into a gap and slingshotting past to make a quickly-approaching exit. That is all the XT4 needs to be able to do – the toughest real-world test you can ask it to perform with a straight face – and does it without harshness unbecoming of an entry-level luxury crossover.

The slick nine-speed auto is a big help. The electrically-boosted brakes, however, proved disconcerting – an uncanny valley of muted feedback made it tough to stop accurately and consistently at a fixed point before a stoplight. And so too did the electrically-assisted power steering, which was a touch too light in all conditions, although admirably accurate. It features a vibration damper to remove unwanted column jitters, which may cause some of the isolation. GM makes some of the best racks in the business, approaching the feel of a good old hydraulic rack in some applications. The XT4's rack is acceptable but not notable. The all-wheel-drive system, available on all trims, is nifty, too. It's a twin-clutch design, able to shift power from side to side the legit way, and paired with a rear axle disconnect system, allowing the driver to lock the car in front-wheel-drive mode for better efficiency.

The ride, however, is a perfect compromise. Continuously-variable damping is available on Sport models, but the conventional dampers on the Premium Luxury model are well calibrated. The ride is comfortable without being overly coddling – somewhere, nebulously, between Lexus and BMW. Just as it should be. It's a rigid platform, with some elements solid-mounted to the chassis and some isolated by bushings, like the rear five-link suspension cradle. The only bad handling habit we noticed in a thoroughly typical freeway and suburban drive route was a bit of head-tossing lateral motion when hitting an imperfection going around a corner. Brake dive and other motion sickness-inducing traits are mostly absent.

If that sounds to you like the template for a competent near-luxury crossover, it is. There's enough novel tech to provide bragging rights, it's obviously a Cadillac but also a handsome crossover in its own right, and it's a pleasing enough place to sit while scooting around in traffic or on the freeway. This is a genre where competence and curb appeal are highly valued, and the XT4 has enough of both to be a real competitor.
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looks like a winner.

https://www.caranddriver.com/cadillac/xt4

great rear

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Like the ATS, I think it's priced too high. I just don't see how Caddy can come to market with a brand new car, and charge as much or more than the price of an X1 or other competitors.
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Like the ATS, I think it's priced too high. I just don't see how Caddy can come to market with a brand new car, and charge as much or more than the price of an X1 or other competitors.

This probably competes more with the X3 than the X1. The X1 is essentially a slightly-raised 3-series wagon.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
looks like a winner.

https://www.caranddriver.com/cadillac/xt4

great rear

Watched a you tube video tonight. . What a beautiful vehicle! Hopefully Lexus will take note 😂
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BMW X3
Length 185.9 to 186.1″
Wheelbase 112.8″
Base $41,000

BMW X1
Length 175.4″
Wheelbase 105.1″
Base $33,900

Cadillac XT4
Length 181.1″
Wheelbase 109.4″
Base $34,795

The Cadillac is a tweener, but no it is closer to the X1, NX, and MKC.
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