Cadillac XT4
You answered my question with my question.
Thanks @Hoovey2411 ! The XT4 looks so different from the Equinox, I don't think it really matters...
Thanks @Hoovey2411 ! The XT4 looks so different from the Equinox, I don't think it really matters...
One thing that hasn't been brought up in this thread (at least, from what I can see) are the nice Metallic Autumn and Metallic Atlantic colors offered on the XT4 (illustrated below). Both of them, IMO, are gorgeous,
although they cost extra ($695), like everything else on the XT4 that isn't traditional silver. The Crystal White Tintcoat and Red Horizon Tintcoat cost even more ($1225)....and the Red appears to be the same paint job that was $695 on my Verano, and that some Chevy models offered without an extra charge. GM has to get the way it markets and charges for colors under control...the present system, IMO, makes little or no sense.


Last edited by mmarshall; Oct 13, 2018 at 04:23 PM.
One thing that hasn't been brought up in this thread (at least, from what I can see) are the nice Metallic Autumn and Metallic Atlantic colors offered on the XT4 (illustrated below). Both of them, IMO, are gorgeous,
although they cost extra ($695), like everything else on the XT4 that isn't traditional silver. The Crystal White Tintcoat and Red Horizon Tintcoat cost even more ($1225)....and the Red appears to be the same paint job that was $695 on my Verano, and that some Chevy models offered without an extra charge. GM has to get the way it markets and charges for colors under control...the present system, IMO, makes little or no sense.




One thing that hasn't been brought up in this thread (at least, from what I can see) are the nice Metallic Autumn and Metallic Atlantic colors offered on the XT4 (illustrated below). Both of them, IMO, are gorgeous,
although they cost extra ($695), like everything else on the XT4 that isn't traditional silver. The Crystal White Tintcoat and Red Horizon Tintcoat cost even more ($1225)....and the Red appears to be the same paint job that was $695 on my Verano, and that some Chevy models offered without an extra charge. GM has to get the way it markets and charges for colors under control...the present system, IMO, makes little or no sense.
The Chevy is free because it's the mainstream brand of the GM family.
The Buick is a few hundred because it's the upscale brand of the GM family.
The Cadillac is more because it's the luxury brand of the GM family.
I'm not quite sure I agree with your reasoning. More expensive vehicles should offer more expensive paint jobs as standard....not charge for them. You are already paying for the better paint job in the higher base price. Buying a Cadillac, with its higher base price to start with, should get you a better paint job than a Chevy without having to pay an additional charge over and above the extra Cadillac surcharge. It's obvious, at least IMO, why Cadillac does it. They figure that the generally well-heeled clientele that buy Caddies, on a 50 or 60K vehicle, aren't going to raise too much of a stink about $1000 extra paint job (often the same paint as on lesser GM vehicles). ...so they profiteer.
You are already paying for the better paint job in the higher base price. Buying a Cadillac, with its higher base price to start with, should get you a better paint job than a Chevy without having to pay an additional charge over and above the extra Cadillac surcharge. It's obvious, at least IMO, why Cadillac does it. They figure that the generally well-heeled clientele that buy Caddies, on a 50 or 60K vehicle, aren't going to raise too much of a stink about $1000 extra paint job (often the same paint as on lesser GM vehicles). ...so they profiteer.
I'm not quite sure I agree with your reasoning. More expensive vehicles should offer more expensive paint jobs as standard....not charge for them. You are already paying for the better paint job in the higher base price. Buying a Cadillac, with its higher base price to start with, should get you a better paint job than a Chevy without having to pay an additional charge over and above the extra Cadillac surcharge. It's obvious, at least IMO, why Cadillac does it. They figure that the generally well-heeled clientele that buy Caddies, on a 50 or 60K vehicle, aren't going to raise too much of a stink about $1000 extra paint job (often the same paint as on lesser GM vehicles). ...so they profiteer.
Luxury buyers are even more willing to pay for what they want and what they can get. If they are willing to pay for a feature, why not charge them (extra) for it?
I agree. The Germans (and Swedes) were the ones that originally started that extra-cost crap for all of the metallics...though extra-cost paint colors themselves, from what I can remember, go all the way back to the famous lollipop-hues of the early-70s Dodge/Plymouth muscle-cars.
Anyhow, back to the thread-topic XT4, those orange/Autumn and ocean-blue shades are NICE....they just may be worth the extra (roughly) $700. I'd probably choose the Autumn if I was ordering one from the factory, and none were available on the lot.
Anyhow, back to the thread-topic XT4, those orange/Autumn and ocean-blue shades are NICE....they just may be worth the extra (roughly) $700. I'd probably choose the Autumn if I was ordering one from the factory, and none were available on the lot.
Last edited by mmarshall; Oct 13, 2018 at 06:42 PM.
One thing that hasn't been brought up in this thread (at least, from what I can see) are the nice Metallic Autumn and Metallic Atlantic colors offered on the XT4 (illustrated below). Both of them, IMO, are gorgeous,
although they cost extra ($695), like everything else on the XT4 that isn't traditional silver. The Crystal White Tintcoat and Red Horizon Tintcoat cost even more ($1225)....and the Red appears to be the same paint job that was $695 on my Verano, and that some Chevy models offered without an extra charge. GM has to get the way it markets and charges for colors under control...the present system, IMO, makes little or no sense.




Oooooo... that Atlantic Blue color is the one to have.
Priced one out online with very basic options and it came to $41k and change. About right in there.
But I agree.... it does not come close to purveying anything related to being a luxury vehicle. It's a well finished Ford Edge or Chevy SUV. I guess for a GM or Cadillac fan, that won't matter. But for someone looking for something to live up the "standard of the world" moniker and have something premium, this is way off. Some simple standard wood trim spread out on the dash or console would be a smart starting point. Also, the side windows need chrome trim.
Priced one out online with very basic options and it came to $41k and change. About right in there.
But I agree.... it does not come close to purveying anything related to being a luxury vehicle. It's a well finished Ford Edge or Chevy SUV. I guess for a GM or Cadillac fan, that won't matter. But for someone looking for something to live up the "standard of the world" moniker and have something premium, this is way off. Some simple standard wood trim spread out on the dash or console would be a smart starting point. Also, the side windows need chrome trim.
I snuck in an Atlantic Blue comment a bit earlier. I've been pining for a car this color. Audi keeps teasing us with pre-production offerings in teal, but it's still only a special order color ($3900). Glad to see GM bring it around and hope others follow. I can't be the only one who is dead tired of the same old colors from everyone. Medium blue's have just about disappeared.
Interesting that the Lincoln MKC, arguably the XT4's closest competitor, offered a dark purple its first year (it was also the feature color at auto shows), but the inexplicably dropped it the second year, even though there was much customer interest in it. Dealerships didn't order it for vehicles in stock, even though customers wanted it.
Upmarket buyers are willing to pay a bit more for what they get. They are, after all, willing to pay a few extra dollars to get a Buick badge rather than a Chevy badge.
Luxury buyers are even more willing to pay for what they want and what they can get. If they are willing to pay for a feature, why not charge them (extra) for it?
Let me get this straight. If I am interpreting this correctly. Some of you on here based on the responses are suggesting that becuase you are buying a “luxury” vehicle, it is ok to charge extra for paint or for the color you want? That is absurd. Yes, some special paint colors or processss might warrant this, but not the way GM is going about it. Or any other brand for that matter.












