2019 Toyota Avalon
06-12-18, 04:31 AM
#571
Lexus Fanatic
Was at Toyota yesterday getting an oil change. Spoke with the sales manager who has sold my family many cars over the last 30 years. He attended the dealer meeting early this year in the US with the owner of the dealer.
1. An awd Avalon is absolutely on the way. It will be in the 3rd year of the model cycle.
2. An awd Camry is coming as well.
3. TRD models of the Avalon will be offered at some point.
1. An awd Avalon is absolutely on the way. It will be in the 3rd year of the model cycle.
2. An awd Camry is coming as well.
3. TRD models of the Avalon will be offered at some point.
06-12-18, 05:17 AM
#572
Pole Position
Was at Toyota yesterday getting an oil change. Spoke with the sales manager who has sold my family many cars over the last 30 years. He attended the dealer meeting early this year in the US with the owner of the dealer.
1. An awd Avalon is absolutely on the way. It will be in the 3rd year of the model cycle.
2. An awd Camry is coming as well.
3. TRD models of the Avalon will be offered at some point.
1. An awd Avalon is absolutely on the way. It will be in the 3rd year of the model cycle.
2. An awd Camry is coming as well.
3. TRD models of the Avalon will be offered at some point.
06-12-18, 05:17 AM
#573
Lexus Fanatic
Do you go strictly by time/mileage, or do your vehicles have computer-tracking of oil-life? My Verano's computer seemed to be quite liberal in allowing a long oil-life.....under the same driving conditions, my Lacrosse's computer is noticeably more strict, even with the required full-synthetic oil. Good thing the first two changes are on the house LOL.
Spoke with the sales manager who has sold my family many cars over the last 30 years. He attended the dealer meeting early this year in the US with the owner of the dealer.
1. An awd Avalon is absolutely on the way. It will be in the 3rd year of the model cycle.
2. An awd Camry is coming as well.
3. TRD models of the Avalon will be offered at some point.
1. An awd Avalon is absolutely on the way. It will be in the 3rd year of the model cycle.
2. An awd Camry is coming as well.
3. TRD models of the Avalon will be offered at some point.
Well, assuming the SM is correct in matters like this (and not all of them are)...that would be quite a move, considering that other manufacturers are restricting, cutting back, or even eliminating sedan offerings in the American market. I personally don't think a TRD version of the Avalon will sell very well, though.....Toyota tried a firm Touring suspension on the 2013 model, and was forced to soften it up some for the 2016 model year mid-cycle refresh.
06-12-18, 06:42 AM
#574
Lexus Fanatic
For oil changes. I go by 6 months or 5K (miles). There is no engine oil monitors for Toyota cars from what I understand. Maybe the newer Lexus models have it but not sure.
06-12-18, 06:53 AM
#575
Was at Toyota yesterday getting an oil change. Spoke with the sales manager who has sold my family many cars over the last 30 years. He attended the dealer meeting early this year in the US with the owner of the dealer.
1. An awd Avalon is absolutely on the way. It will be in the 3rd year of the model cycle.
2. An awd Camry is coming as well.
3. TRD models of the Avalon will be offered at some point.
1. An awd Avalon is absolutely on the way. It will be in the 3rd year of the model cycle.
2. An awd Camry is coming as well.
3. TRD models of the Avalon will be offered at some point.
06-12-18, 05:14 PM
#576
Lexus Test Driver
Was at Toyota yesterday getting an oil change. Spoke with the sales manager who has sold my family many cars over the last 30 years. He attended the dealer meeting early this year in the US with the owner of the dealer.
1. An awd Avalon is absolutely on the way. It will be in the 3rd year of the model cycle.
2. An awd Camry is coming as well.
3. TRD models of the Avalon will be offered at some point.
1. An awd Avalon is absolutely on the way. It will be in the 3rd year of the model cycle.
2. An awd Camry is coming as well.
3. TRD models of the Avalon will be offered at some point.
You really have no idea if or when or how a new engine will arrive.
In my opinion - the Sales Manager and dealers knows as much as we do. SM don't really get the inside scoop on these things. Sure - maybe hes right and maybe hes wrong. I'm just saying a SM is a bad source intel for future directions of a vehicle, when said vehicle isn't even on sale yet...
I think TRD Models of the Avalon will yield awful sales figures. No one that buys Avalon will pay extra for TRD packaging of it. I don't believe the core demographics of the Avalon do not care about TRD nor will enthusiasts. Toyota Avalon sales are already good - why would they waste money to develop something that won't draw a high net amount of money in return?
Similarity - this is how I feel about the Camry, Avalon and ES AWD debate. The Camry, Avalon and ES sales are already pretty good considering the SUV craze in the USA. Adding AWD to the Camry, Avalon and ES will only increase the price of the vehicle. With that price-tag increase - the question remains - would anyone pay the premium for AWD? Would anyone pay extra for a AWD Camry, Avalon and ES over RAV4 or NX/RX? I believe they won't. There was no demand for a AWD ES during the 6G ES - not sure why all of sudden we start to believe Toyota will start giving us an AWD Camry, Avalon and ES now.
Besides - the Camry XSE loaded cost about 37K. An AWD Camry XSE loaded, I assume, would probably be closing onto 40K. I don't think that will sell.
06-13-18, 01:43 PM
#577
drives cars
To be fair, there will be an AWD Altima. We saw an AWD Fusion not long ago. It kinda makes sense. It gives buyers another option if they want an AWD vehicle and gives the manufacturer a slightly larger target market. Does Toyota need to do it? No. But, I don't think it is a far-fetched idea.
06-13-18, 01:47 PM
#578
Pole Position
Was at Toyota yesterday getting an oil change. Spoke with the sales manager who has sold my family many cars over the last 30 years. He attended the dealer meeting early this year in the US with the owner of the dealer.
1. An awd Avalon is absolutely on the way. It will be in the 3rd year of the model cycle.
2. An awd Camry is coming as well.
3. TRD models of the Avalon will be offered at some point.
1. An awd Avalon is absolutely on the way. It will be in the 3rd year of the model cycle.
2. An awd Camry is coming as well.
3. TRD models of the Avalon will be offered at some point.
06-13-18, 01:49 PM
#579
Pole Position
To quote, what you said to me in the other post:
Same reference to this: you really have no idea if an AWD will arrive.
In my opinion - the Sales Manager and dealers knows as much as we do. SM don't really get the inside scoop on these things. Sure - maybe hes right and maybe hes wrong. I'm just saying a SM is a bad source intel for future directions of a vehicle, when said vehicle isn't even on sale yet...
I think TRD Models of the Avalon will yield awful sales figures. No one that buys Avalon will pay extra for TRD packaging of it. I don't believe the core demographics of the Avalon do not care about TRD nor will enthusiasts. Toyota Avalon sales are already good - why would they waste money to develop something that won't draw a high net amount of money in return?
Similarity - this is how I feel about the Camry, Avalon and ES AWD debate. The Camry, Avalon and ES sales are already pretty good considering the SUV craze in the USA. Adding AWD to the Camry, Avalon and ES will only increase the price of the vehicle. With that price-tag increase - the question remains - would anyone pay the premium for AWD? Would anyone pay extra for a AWD Camry, Avalon and ES over RAV4 or NX/RX? I believe they won't. There was no demand for a AWD ES during the 6G ES - not sure why all of sudden we start to believe Toyota will start giving us an AWD Camry, Avalon and ES now.
Besides - the Camry XSE loaded cost about 37K. An AWD Camry XSE loaded, I assume, would probably be closing onto 40K. I don't think that will sell.
Same reference to this: you really have no idea if an AWD will arrive.
In my opinion - the Sales Manager and dealers knows as much as we do. SM don't really get the inside scoop on these things. Sure - maybe hes right and maybe hes wrong. I'm just saying a SM is a bad source intel for future directions of a vehicle, when said vehicle isn't even on sale yet...
I think TRD Models of the Avalon will yield awful sales figures. No one that buys Avalon will pay extra for TRD packaging of it. I don't believe the core demographics of the Avalon do not care about TRD nor will enthusiasts. Toyota Avalon sales are already good - why would they waste money to develop something that won't draw a high net amount of money in return?
Similarity - this is how I feel about the Camry, Avalon and ES AWD debate. The Camry, Avalon and ES sales are already pretty good considering the SUV craze in the USA. Adding AWD to the Camry, Avalon and ES will only increase the price of the vehicle. With that price-tag increase - the question remains - would anyone pay the premium for AWD? Would anyone pay extra for a AWD Camry, Avalon and ES over RAV4 or NX/RX? I believe they won't. There was no demand for a AWD ES during the 6G ES - not sure why all of sudden we start to believe Toyota will start giving us an AWD Camry, Avalon and ES now.
Besides - the Camry XSE loaded cost about 37K. An AWD Camry XSE loaded, I assume, would probably be closing onto 40K. I don't think that will sell.
She is simply relaying what the sales manager told her. She isnt predicting these things on her own while sitting in the bathroom.
06-13-18, 01:59 PM
#580
Lexus Fanatic
I think TRD Models of the Avalon will yield awful sales figures. No one that buys Avalon will pay extra for TRD packaging of it. I don't believe the core demographics of the Avalon do not care about TRD nor will enthusiasts. Toyota Avalon sales are already good - why would they waste money to develop something that won't draw a high net amount of money in return?
06-13-18, 02:07 PM
#581
Lexus Test Driver
Because, after-all, no one knows what will happen to the Lexus ES in 1-3 years time except for the higher-ups. This means, the dealer (sales manager) will likely not know.
I'm with you on this one........I will be very surprised if a TRD Avalon manages to get significant sales figures. Like the Lacrosse with its slow-selling 20" wheel and Hi-Per Strut suspension option, it simply doesn't fit most of the car's demographics. And, though we'll have to wait and see, I don't think that the upcoming ES350 F-Sport models are going to do very well, either. The manufacturers seem to have forgotten that the vast majority of those who buy these vehicles (although, admittedly, a dwindling customer-base) are NOT looking for sport-orientation.
I don't think the Lexus LS needs a F-Sport too. I think it needs a LS-F though.
06-14-18, 07:20 AM
#582
Pole Position
I don't think its petty. I just used a quote she said to me. Its a fair quote to use back on her.
Because, after-all, no one knows what will happen to the Lexus ES in 1-3 years time except for the higher-ups. This means, the dealer (sales manager) will likely not know.
Because, after-all, no one knows what will happen to the Lexus ES in 1-3 years time except for the higher-ups. This means, the dealer (sales manager) will likely not know.
06-14-18, 10:02 AM
#583
Lexus Test Driver
To assume that I stalk the forums waiting for a chance to reply that comment back to her is ludicrous - how would I ever know when she will ever post?
Maybe you should let it go - you clearly more offended by this am I. And you are clearly more offended by this than she is. Lets get back on topic - the Avalon.
06-14-18, 11:32 AM
#584
Forum Administrator
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BippuLexus, please exit this thread.
06-14-18, 12:48 PM
#585
Lexus Champion
I'm with you on this one........I will be very surprised if a TRD Avalon manages to get significant sales figures. Like the Lacrosse with its slow-selling 20" wheel and Hi-Per Strut suspension option, it simply doesn't fit most of the car's demographics. And, though we'll have to wait and see, I don't think that the upcoming ES350 F-Sport models are going to do very well, either. The manufacturers seem to have forgotten that the vast majority of those who buy these vehicles (although, admittedly, a dwindling customer-base) are NOT looking for sport-orientation.
But I think the ES F Sport will do well. Lexus is expecting 50k ES sales per year, with 25% being F Sport, and I can see that happening. I wonder what the take rate is on the RX F Sport. I wouldn't be surprised if the ES F Sport can do better in sales than the RX F Sport.