Well, like I said our PHEV Pacifica is one of the best cars we have ever had, doesn’t mean it’s for everybody but we love it and I will absolutely buy other PHEVs. Not everything has to be performance oriented.

No issue at all with keeping the throttle under 50% to keep the engine off.

 

Good one lol!!

 

I think you meant "she".

But, yes, as LexBob pointed out, a good one.

 

Now having experience with BMW PHEV/Hybrid system, I feel Toyota/Lexus hybrid are best in the business.

I would be interested if that happens. I would prefer a PHEV over the V8 TT

Have you driven a Lexus/Toyota PHEV vehicle?

I’ve never experienced any of this you’re describing in the 32k miles I put on my PHEV RAV4 or any of the other 3 Lexus/Toyota hybrid I have/had.

I literally get in our Toyota hybrids remove the sunshade if parked outside, seatbelt, fire up, disengage e brake and throw them in drive and drive off. ZERO warmup.

 

Dozens of them yes. Toyota does it the second best IMO, Porsche is the best and the only ones I would consider of it wasn't for the fact the EA825 with a tune so vastly eclipses the hybrid.

You know exactly what I am talking about, the hybrids have a delay vs input if the engine is off.

 

Well my counterpoint is you have a minivan. Tells me the kind of driving aspects that matter to you and that's perfectly fine but some people want better

But you are right, I do hold very odd requirements and that's likely why I drive what I do since the % of people like me correlates with market % of the type of cars I drive. I should probably stop participating on this board TBH and migrate to where other similar people reside who actually enjoy cars the same way I do since I view them as mechanical art with practical function. That's why I have so many different types so I can have many different experiences and feels when I want them

 

Always a good idea to fill up sooner rather than later, otherwise, one could be like this poor guy…with a long walk back from the service station .

 

I filled up the 540i on Wednesday. It had about 8 gallons left.

 

Haha, good catch. She is a she! I can confirm that.

I also have a Mercedes S580, the same level of car you have. The Minivan is a tool, it’s not something we bought for motoring enjoyment. Not every priority is that when you have practical needs that must be met with a vehicle. That’s why I said in the right application it’s a great system. I drove the PHEV S Class and for that application it wasn’t for me and I prefer the V8 or a full EV. For the minivan though, it’s hard to beat. It’s not a vehicle we want to drive fast or care about handling, we want a comfortable spacious vehicle that is easy for kids and the dog to get in and out of that also is luxurious and enjoyable to drive to a certain extent. It has all of those things in spades.

Would I rather have a full EV to a PHEV? Yes but while charging is still an obstacle when traveling the PHEV is a great alternative. We just wish it had about 20 more miles of EV range. My wife has made it very clear she will never have another non plug in vehicle.

 

AAA

Roadtrip planned?

 

I think that’s AARP

 

that old man doesn’t have a cell phone…and likely canceled his OnStar subscription

 

He doesn’t get that new fangled stuff lol

 

He should have coasted a few more feet instead of blocking the road. Lol

FAIL x2
📣 💯 🦖

 

Now you're making the rest of us look bad. Lol

I can do better! 🫸🫷 🤣