Gas Prices
However we on here are generally affluent. Gas dropping to almost crazy low prices in lots of areas helps those that are less fortunate and don't have any money. They don't have the luxury of trading in their gas guzzlers on something else.
One person I grew up grew up who lives in Louisiana didn't have enough gas money to come see me/others in Knoxville (he's from here) once years ago. That's unfathomable to me but very real for lots of people. I was like "I'll pay for your gas..."
Last edited by AJT123; Dec 29, 2025 at 07:30 PM.
Next joint is already being planed out with the future energy ***-hat-tactics in mind.
I wish things were another way. But it is what it is and until vehicles all go electric. We have to pay for the dead dino lube.
I do like having the option of using either or with my car. PHEV, with a around town range.
Man I remember paying like $4.75 a gallon in Milwaukee in like 2012, that was rough. Even in my GS450h
Last edited by ChattanoogaPhil; Dec 30, 2025 at 05:36 AM.
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Heat pumps just don't work when it gets below 20-25ish.
Gas heat warms the house up almost immediately.

Meanwhile... price of crude has only moved from $57 to $58.
Last edited by ChattanoogaPhil; Dec 30, 2025 at 12:01 PM.
We have a heat pump and gas heat.
We have the gas heat set to kick on when outside temp goes below 35° because, as you say they the heat pump can’t support heating a house when it’s that cold.
Normally we don’t have extreme hot and cold temps in the PNW and it might’ve dipped below 35° a couple times this month but not for long as it usually warms up and the heat pump kicks in again.
This will be our 3rd winter with a heat pump and it’s been the best thing we could’ve done to cool the house in the summer, and save on gas heat in the winter.
I guess it all depends on where you live and how extreme your climate is whether a heat pump would be a good option for you.
We have the gas heat set to kick on when outside temp goes below 35° because, as you say they the heat pump can’t support heating a house when it’s that cold.
Normally we don’t have extreme hot and cold temps in the PNW and it might’ve dipped below 35° a couple times this month but not for long as it usually warms up and the heat pump kicks in again.
This will be our 3rd winter with a heat pump and it’s been the best thing we could’ve done to cool the house in the summer, and save on gas heat in the winter.
I guess it all depends on where you live and how extreme your climate is whether a heat pump would be a good option for you.
And yeah, winters aren't bad here compared to winters in most of the rest of the country but it does get cold... too cold for a HP. It might not be a total dealbreaker in a house but it would be a big "con".
Our smart thermostats, we hadn't been n the house for days bc of the holidays.... It had the house warm in like 2 seconds, nothing quite like a freezing house warming up rapidly from gas heat. It was pumping as we were walking in the door..
And yeah, winters aren't bad here compared to winters in most of the rest of the country but it does get cold... too cold for a HP. It might not be a total dealbreaker in a house but it would be a big "con".
Our smart thermostats, we hadn't been n the house for days bc of the holidays.... It had the house warm in like 2 seconds, nothing quite like a freezing house warming up rapidly from gas heat. It was pumping as we were walking in the door..
We have the gas heat set to kick on when outside temp goes below 35° because, as you say they the heat pump can’t support heating a house when it’s that cold.
Normally we don’t have extreme hot and cold temps in the PNW and it might’ve dipped below 35° a couple times this month but not for long as it usually warms up and the heat pump kicks in again.
This will be our 3rd winter with a heat pump and it’s been the best thing we could’ve done to cool the house in the summer, and save on gas heat in the winter.
I guess it all depends on where you live and how extreme your climate is whether a heat pump would be a good option for you.
And yeah, winters aren't bad here compared to winters in most of the rest of the country but it does get cold... too cold for a HP. It might not be a total dealbreaker in a house but it would be a big "con".
Our smart thermostats, we hadn't been n the house for days bc of the holidays.... It had the house warm in like 2 seconds, nothing quite like a freezing house warming up rapidly from gas heat. It was pumping as we were walking in the door..
And, what are the temperature thermostat set at?
Last edited by Toys4RJill; Dec 30, 2025 at 08:10 PM.
Exactly.
Since our temps aren’t always extreme and having gone through a few hotter than normal summers, we wanted to cool the house and weighed our options between getting an A/C or HP. We felt the AC wouldn’t get used enough in the summer and we’d still have to pay for gas heat in the winter, so went with the HP. There were a lot of discounts/rebates when we decided to buy and again, so glad we did.
On another note, I checked Costco premium gas price again and it’s still under $4 a gal 👍














