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Old Dec 29, 2025 | 07:16 PM
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I too don't give the taxes where I live much thought. They are what they are, and this is where I live.
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As long as everyone is happy where they live that's great. I don't care that gas is so expensive in other states, I live in TN where it's $2.. And there's literally no place on Earth I'd rather live than West Knoxville, TN. I did the big city thing.

However we on here are generally affluent. Gas dropping to almost crazy low prices in lots of areas helps those that are less fortunate and don't have any money. They don't have the luxury of trading in their gas guzzlers on something else.

One person I grew up grew up who lives in Louisiana didn't have enough gas money to come see me/others in Knoxville (he's from here) once years ago. That's unfathomable to me but very real for lots of people. I was like "I'll pay for your gas..."

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Old Dec 29, 2025 | 07:38 PM
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I’ll never move away from the west coast. Yes, our gas and sales tax are expensive, but I have no state income tax, and it’s beautiful here. I’m not leaving. $2 gas or not.
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Originally Posted by JDR76
I’ll never move away from the west coast. Yes, our gas and sales tax are expensive, but I have no state income tax, and it’s beautiful here. I’m not leaving. $2 gas or not.
Can't beat the bolded. We don't have income tax either.
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Originally Posted by neurocity
See now here. Heat pumps are the way to go, if you have an efficient (modern/modernized) home. My 100 year old joint is rocking boiler heat on nat-gas (I still have a coal chute) I can always burn logs in either of the fireplaces. There's $300 a face-cord worth of wood burning away
Next joint is already being planed out with the future energy ***-hat-tactics in mind.
They don't make sense here vs gas because they suck hard below 40* vs a 95% gas unit, my friend has a 920sq/ft house and he is paying $573 a month on heat vs my 4200sq/ft with garage vent and huge amounts of windows at $265
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I'm planning on leaving IL...for the PNW.
I wish things were another way. But it is what it is and until vehicles all go electric. We have to pay for the dead dino lube.

I do like having the option of using either or with my car. PHEV, with a around town range.

Man I remember paying like $4.75 a gallon in Milwaukee in like 2012, that was rough. Even in my GS450h
Old Dec 30, 2025 | 05:22 AM
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Eh... family and career often dictate where one lives. Moving isn't always an attractive option even though certain aspects would be. I'm blessed to have homes in Tennessee and California. Yeah, gasoline prices are stupid high but in other aspects not so much different living. Me and Coondog out for a stroll after a rare heavy rain.


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Originally Posted by Striker223
They don't make sense here vs gas because they suck hard below 40* vs a 95% gas unit, my friend has a 920sq/ft house and he is paying $573 a month on heat vs my 4200sq/ft with garage vent and huge amounts of windows at $265
I suppose heat pumps have improved over the past few decades but the one where I lived in Asheville NC sucked. Never again at any price!

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Old Dec 30, 2025 | 06:21 AM
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Heat pumps aren't even good enough for here, not really. I would pass on a house with no gas heat.

Heat pumps just don't work when it gets below 20-25ish.

Gas heat warms the house up almost immediately.
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Price of Gasoline suddenly bounced up here. From $2.15 the other day to $2.49 at the same gas station. As I posted earlier in this thread: "there's a history of popping 30-40 cents literally overnight. We'll see." Well... there it is.

Meanwhile... price
of crude has only moved from $57 to $58.

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Originally Posted by AJT123
Heat pumps aren't even good enough for here, not really. I would pass on a house with no gas heat.
Heat pumps just don't work when it gets below 20-25ish.
Gas heat warms the house up almost immediately.

We have a heat pump and gas heat.

We have the gas heat set to kick on when outside temp goes below 35° because, as you say they the heat pump can’t support heating a house when it’s that cold.

Normally we don’t have extreme hot and cold temps in the PNW and it might’ve dipped below 35° a couple times this month but not for long as it usually warms up and the heat pump kicks in again.

This will be our 3rd winter with a heat pump and it’s been the best thing we could’ve done to cool the house in the summer, and save on gas heat in the winter.

I guess it all depends on where you live and how extreme your climate is whether a heat pump would be a good option for you.








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Originally Posted by RofH
We have a heat pump and gas heat.

We have the gas heat set to kick on when outside temp goes below 35° because, as you say they the heat pump can’t support heating a house when it’s that cold.

Normally we don’t have extreme hot and cold temps in the PNW and it might’ve dipped below 35° a couple times this month but not for long as it usually warms up and the heat pump kicks in again.

This will be our 3rd winter with a heat pump and it’s been the best thing we could’ve done to cool the house in the summer, and save on gas heat in the winter.

I guess it all depends on where you live and how extreme your climate is whether a heat pump would be a good option for you.
Interestingly, I've never heard of having both!

And yeah, winters aren't bad here compared to winters in most of the rest of the country but it does get cold... too cold for a HP. It might not be a total dealbreaker in a house but it would be a big "con".

Our smart thermostats, we hadn't been n the house for days bc of the holidays.... It had the house warm in like 2 seconds, nothing quite like a freezing house warming up rapidly from gas heat. It was pumping as we were walking in the door..
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Interestingly, I've never heard of having both!

And yeah, winters aren't bad here compared to winters in most of the rest of the country but it does get cold... too cold for a HP. It might not be a total dealbreaker in a house but it would be a big "con".

Our smart thermostats, we hadn't been n the house for days bc of the holidays.... It had the house warm in like 2 seconds, nothing quite like a freezing house warming up rapidly from gas heat. It was pumping as we were walking in the door..
Heat pump is also AC in summer, makes a lot of sense in moderate climates actually. The gas is the "emergency heat"
Old Dec 30, 2025 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RofH
We have a heat pump and gas heat.

We have the gas heat set to kick on when outside temp goes below 35° because, as you say they the heat pump can’t support heating a house when it’s that cold.

Normally we don’t have extreme hot and cold temps in the PNW and it might’ve dipped below 35° a couple times this month but not for long as it usually warms up and the heat pump kicks in again.

This will be our 3rd winter with a heat pump and it’s been the best thing we could’ve done to cool the house in the summer, and save on gas heat in the winter.

I guess it all depends on where you live and how extreme your climate is whether a heat pump would be a good option for you.
Originally Posted by AJT123
Interestingly, I've never heard of having both!

And yeah, winters aren't bad here compared to winters in most of the rest of the country but it does get cold... too cold for a HP. It might not be a total dealbreaker in a house but it would be a big "con".

Our smart thermostats, we hadn't been n the house for days bc of the holidays.... It had the house warm in like 2 seconds, nothing quite like a freezing house warming up rapidly from gas heat. It was pumping as we were walking in the door..
What does the cost of Home heating via gas cost in Tennesee and surrounding area?

And, what are the temperature thermostat set at?

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Originally Posted by Striker223
Heat pump is also AC in summer, makes a lot of sense in moderate climates actually. The gas is the "emergency heat"

Exactly.
Since our temps aren’t always extreme and having gone through a few hotter than normal summers, we wanted to cool the house and weighed our options between getting an A/C or HP. We felt the AC wouldn’t get used enough in the summer and we’d still have to pay for gas heat in the winter, so went with the HP. There were a lot of discounts/rebates when we decided to buy and again, so glad we did.


On another note, I checked Costco premium gas price again and it’s still under $4 a gal 👍






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