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Old Feb 5, 2024 | 03:41 PM
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What's holding you back? You'll still have the Pacifica for the longer trips when charging is unavailable and you could always just keep the S and park it outside
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Old Feb 5, 2024 | 03:51 PM
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What's holding you back? You'll still have the Pacifica for the longer trips when charging is unavailable and you could always just keep the S and park it outside
If and when he gets an i7, I pretty much guarantee the S-Class will be mostly parked
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Old Feb 5, 2024 | 04:05 PM
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What's holding you back? You'll still have the Pacifica for the longer trips when charging is unavailable and you could always just keep the S and park it outside
Issue is when I travel alone, when we travel all of us together we take the Pacifica. I could in theory take the Pacifica when I travel alone but I really don’t want to and my wife won’t want me to either.

LOL, I could just keep them all!
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Old Feb 5, 2024 | 04:14 PM
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Cars are like pokemon right?
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Old Feb 5, 2024 | 04:46 PM
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I'm surprised by your comments. I care if people are cheating self driving tech it puts possibly me and my family in danger. And definitely some people out there. On the broader point, equal application of the law should not be too much to ask.

I don't think any auto maker should ever get a pass when it comes to safety no matter how many cars they sell.
I agree with you here. Nobody should get a pass on safety. Any automaker offering technology akin to autopilot or FSD should have monitoring to make sure you're not using it recklessly. If you don't want a camera watching you in the car, do like I do and don't buy a car with those features.


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Old Feb 6, 2024 | 03:02 PM
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Taycan refresh should be announced pretty soon. Kyle from Out of Spec recorded a charging test that Porsche and EA had setup and the charging curve is even better than the current Taycan which is already one of the best charging cars out there. Whether the infrastructure will actually be able to support it is another question
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Old Feb 6, 2024 | 06:10 PM
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Lots of Taycans around here, lots.
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Old Feb 6, 2024 | 06:17 PM
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Lots of Taycans around here, lots.
I thought there were only Teslas
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Old Feb 6, 2024 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Allen K
Taycan refresh should be announced pretty soon. Kyle from Out of Spec recorded a charging test that Porsche and EA had setup and the charging curve is even better than the current Taycan which is already one of the best charging cars out there. Whether the infrastructure will actually be able to support it is another question
Never really considered an EV to replace my current daily... but if they bring an updated/refreshed Taycan Sport Turismo to the states, I might change my mind. Only reason I'm wondering is because they killed the Sport Turismo body style for the Panamera for MY '24. The Cross Turismo is a non-starter as I don't like the plastic cladding at all - it just ruins the look.
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Old Feb 6, 2024 | 08:18 PM
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I thought there were only Teslas
All relative. It’s a $250k car, a lot of them out there for such an expensive beast.

Hertz is canceling buying 65,000 EVs, that’s the latest. First they dumped 20k. No big deal right?
https://www.businessinsider.com/hert...Ccc-NLJ5XvyNV0

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Old Feb 6, 2024 | 08:46 PM
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Just wondering because before you said all you see where you live are Teslas, but now there are tons of Taycans. Taycans are not all $250k either, they start at $90,000.

Constantly defending EVs to you is exhausting. Of course if Hertz is selling their EVs they’re going to cancel the ones they have on order. EVs don’t make great rental cars, it was an experiment that didn’t work out well.

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Old Feb 7, 2024 | 03:23 AM
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Ford EV news. Source: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/06/ford...tegration.html

Summary: Ford's EV business unit lost almost $1.6 billion in Q4 and lost $4.7 billion in 2023.
Opinion: Ford continues to flounder in their EV business and blames it on the cost of EV's being too high compared to ICE vehicles. Meanwhile, the base price of a Mach E Mustang is within $500 of the base price of a Model Y (Mach E being cheaper). And this is current - the base model Y price used to be higher. Seems to me Ford is not making EV's that enough people want to buy, regardless of price.

DETROIT — Ford Motor is rethinking its electric vehicle strategies, including “reassessing” the need for vertical integration of batteries, CEO Jim Farley said Tuesday.

The Detroit automaker previously confirmed plans to delay or cut $12 billion in spending on all-electric vehicles, but the comments made Tuesday are the most detailed about Ford’s changing plans for EVs, sales of which are growing at a slower-than-expected rate.

“One of the things we’re taking advantage of in taking some timing delays is rationalizing the level and timing of our battery capacity to match demand and actually reassessing the vertical integration that we’re relying on, and betting on new chemistries and capacities,” Farley said during the automaker’s fourth-quarter earnings call.

Farley reiterated the company still believes EVs will grow, but noted widespread adoption for mass-market consumers won’t happen until the costs are more in line with traditional vehicles. EVs are typically thousands of dollars more expensive than their gas-powered counterparts.

Ford Chief Financial Officer John Lawler said in addition to reassessing the vertical integration in new battery chemistries, the company is further looking into adjusting installed production capacity to match demand and potentially delaying next-generation EVs to “to ensure they meet our criteria for profitability, given the new market reality.”

The company’s EV business, known as Model e, lost $4.7 billion last year, including $1.57 billion during the fourth quarter of 2023, offset by profits in the company’s fleet and traditional internal combustion engine units. Both businesses earned more than $7 billion each last year.

Lawler said Tuesday that the unit will have to stand on its own “sooner rather than later.”

He also said the company is pulling a target for its EV unit that called for 8% margin by 2026. The company had already set a target of two million vehicles sold annually by that time.

As Ford pulls back and reevaluates the EV business, it intends to lean in on sales of hybrid vehicles, specifically trucks. The company expects its hybrid sales to increase 40% this year. It sold 133,743 hybrid vehicles in the U.S. in 2023.
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Cars are like pokemon right?
They would be if I had more money!
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Old Feb 7, 2024 | 05:35 AM
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Just wondering because before you said all you see where you live are Teslas, but now there are tons of Taycans. Taycans are not all $250k either, they start at $90,000.

Constantly defending EVs to you is exhausting. Of course if Hertz is selling their EVs they’re going to cancel the ones they have on order. EVs don’t make great rental cars, it was an experiment that didn’t work out well.
I know bit had a decent experience with his rental 3 but most of the time I'm traveling it's for work and I don't have time to find a charger before getting to the airport. The overpriced gas station at the airport highway exit is my best friend.
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Old Feb 7, 2024 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Allen K
I know bit had a decent experience with his rental 3 but most of the time I'm traveling it's for work and I don't have time to find a charger before getting to the airport. The overpriced gas station at the airport highway exit is my best friend.
Enterprise/National doesn't require a particular SOC at return. Some other agencies do, but I don't believe any of them require >80%.

When I had the Polestar a year ago, I did return it relatively full, because there was a free charger at the hotel, and I went straight from there to the airport. But I didn't have to.
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