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Old May 3, 2024 | 09:37 PM
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I don’t see how a vehicle or its style of propulsion has an impact with hydroplaning. It’s simply the buildup of water in the tread of the tire that forces the tire up off the road surface thus losing grip.
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Old May 4, 2024 | 03:43 AM
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I would think that the increased weight of EVs would reduce hydroplaning.
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Old May 4, 2024 | 05:40 AM
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R1S phantom drain update. Recap - 10 day spring break trip = 14% loss over the time period. This time I was on a 7 day work trip and left it unplugged instead of keeping it plugged in. Left at 80%, came back to 77%. Keeping it plugged in probably kept it from fully sleeping so I'll be unplugging when I leave for longer trips moving forward
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Old May 4, 2024 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by swajames
I'm consistently impressed at how my EV handles the wet, including acceleration from a stop. It really is quite remarkable, it just gets going and expertly puts down just as much power as it can. It does not put a foot wrong. My Defender is also incredible in the wet. It's actually better than the EV, but that doesn't at all undermine how good the EV is because the EV is doing it with the best part of 600 hp and 800 lb/ft to handle.
I have deliberately tried to make my car lose grip - when there's no one around me and there's enough room for error (meaning no obstructions/barriers etc for me to crash into). In wet, snow (not ice) and the traction control is just unbelievable on my dual motor Model S.

If you're wondering why I've tried to do this deliberately - it's simply because I couldn't believe how good the traction control is, so I wanted to see how good it is . The only time I lost traction was once (again it was safe to do this - no one around me and nothing to crash into) , exiting the highway and making a left hand turn to get on a side street (the light was green, late at night), I deliberately took the corner faster than it was safe to do so, there was a light dusting of snow on the road and the forward momentum of the car caused the rear to break loose mid way through the turn. Just plain physics
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Old May 4, 2024 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Hameed
I have deliberately tried to make my car lose grip - when there's no one around me and there's enough room for error (meaning no obstructions/barriers etc for me to crash into). In wet, snow (not ice) and the traction control is just unbelievable on my dual motor Model S.

If you're wondering why I've tried to do this deliberately - it's simply because I couldn't believe how good the traction control is, so I wanted to see how good it is . The only time I lost traction was once (again it was safe to do this - no one around me and nothing to crash into) , exiting the highway and making a left hand turn to get on a side street (the light was green, late at night), I deliberately took the corner faster than it was safe to do so, there was a light dusting of snow on the road and the forward momentum of the car caused the rear to break loose mid way through the turn. Just plain physics
yes, it constantly amazes me too. You really do have to experience it to believe and understand it.
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Old May 4, 2024 | 10:54 AM
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Again I'll say it because now others have weighed in, no gas car I've driven has traction like my EV's. In most road conditions, I can put my foot to the floor and the tire slip is not there, or at least not noticeable. Not even a chirp. In the Polestar off the line I can consistently get a 3.7 second 0 to 60 on dry roads, and with cold AS tires. My Y I can consistently get 4.6 seconds. You do start feeling the weight and some breaking in traction if going around a corner too fast, but TC usually reigns you in
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Old May 4, 2024 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Hameed
I have deliberately tried to make my car lose grip

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If you're wondering why I've tried to do this deliberately…
You’re on a forum full of car enthusiasts. This behavior requires no explanation or apology.
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Old May 4, 2024 | 06:35 PM
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You’re on a forum full of car enthusiasts. This behavior requires no explanation or apology.
I was pre-empting the inevitable "you're so irresponsible doing stupid **** like that on public roads" comments..
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Old May 4, 2024 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Hameed
I was pre-empting the inevitable "you're so irresponsible doing stupid **** like that on public roads" comments..
You're such an amateur man. I take comments like those with a badge of honor 🤣
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Old May 4, 2024 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Hameed
I was pre-empting the inevitable "you're so irresponsible doing stupid **** like that on public roads" comments..
Here's your air cover: My diesel family sedan goes through almost three sets of wide, sticky rear tires for every set of much narrower fronts. The reason for this disparity is left as an exercise for the reader.
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Old May 5, 2024 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by geko29
Here's your air cover: My diesel family sedan goes through almost three sets of wide, sticky rear tires for every set of much narrower fronts. The reason for this disparity is left as an exercise for the reader.

Do you have the Traction-Control turned off? Modern automotive diesels have a LOT of torque at low RPMs, and, assuming your sedan is RWD, even wide rear rubber may not handle it well without some help from the electronics.
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Old May 5, 2024 | 08:25 PM
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Turn those nannies off and show up at the track. Let’s see how well it handles compared to gas vehicles. Test out your 50-150-50 for 30 min sessions thru the esses, straights, carousels, uphill and downhill (lift for regen)

Or you guys sticking to red light, highway passing and highway merging races? 👀
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Old May 5, 2024 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex


Turn those nannies off and show up at the track. Let’s see how well it handles compared to gas vehicles. Test out your 50-150-50 for 30 min sessions thru the esses, straights, carousels, uphill and downhill (lift for regen)

Or you guys sticking to red light, highway passing and highway merging races? 👀
Haha is that a Model Y? I would never take one to the track, but I would drag you When I get my Model 3 Performance next year, I'll meet you there in my tux 🤣
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Old May 5, 2024 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Haha is that a Model Y? I would never take one to the track, but I would drag you When I get my Model 3 Performance next year, I'll meet you there in my tux 🤣
See you there in your M3P because that’s what that is.
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Old May 5, 2024 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
See you there in your M3P because that’s what that is.
Oh, my bad! I just took a second look, my excuse is the angle of the pic
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