General EV Conversation
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From: The School of Hard Knocks
the thing toyota did masterfully was push the whole “electrification” buzzword (classic “FUD” strategy), hyping hybrids more than anything, and making it the “sensible” choice, which aligns perfectly with toyota/lexus’ customers. most of toyota’s products are now hybrids. they sell hardly any ev’s. we’ll see how the new highlander ev does. the new ch-r ev does not appear to be selling well at all.
for most people, filling up with gas is fine. the great range that hybrids provide is great. and hybrids have become smoother than ever. so i think most consumers just think “ev’s = limited range, hassle charging on trips, expensive, weird, not mainstream”. i’m i’m right about this, ev’s will have a hard time making much of a big dent in new car sales until those perceptions change.
older people don’t want change. younger people don’t want or can’t afford cars.
for most people, filling up with gas is fine. the great range that hybrids provide is great. and hybrids have become smoother than ever. so i think most consumers just think “ev’s = limited range, hassle charging on trips, expensive, weird, not mainstream”. i’m i’m right about this, ev’s will have a hard time making much of a big dent in new car sales until those perceptions change.
older people don’t want change. younger people don’t want or can’t afford cars.
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I think these are, as least, some of the reasons, whether they are true or not:
1) Its more expensive to do both and run two production lines.
2) It makes R&D, investment weaker in each category. Battery tech doesn't change as fast, # of charging stations don't grow as fast
3) Some people see EV as "saving" the world, and ICE as more polluting.
1) Its more expensive to do both and run two production lines.
2) It makes R&D, investment weaker in each category. Battery tech doesn't change as fast, # of charging stations don't grow as fast
3) Some people see EV as "saving" the world, and ICE as more polluting.
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I think these are, as least, some of the reasons, whether they are true or not:
1) Its more expensive to do both and run two production lines.
2) It makes R&D, investment weaker in each category. Battery tech doesn't change as fast, # of charging stations don't grow as fast
3) Some people see EV as "saving" the world, and ICE as more polluting.
1) Its more expensive to do both and run two production lines.
2) It makes R&D, investment weaker in each category. Battery tech doesn't change as fast, # of charging stations don't grow as fast
3) Some people see EV as "saving" the world, and ICE as more polluting.
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Tesla adoption is highest in the following States: California, Florida, Texas, and Washington state, in that order. Just a matter of time before more and more people in other states get curious and have a taste. But again, no single brand will have 100 percent adoption
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besides gas costs, the sun shines a lot there and tons of people have solar. there’s also the largest charging network there, and of course tesla began and was based there (and still has fremont plant).
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