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Old Mar 12, 2026 | 10:27 AM
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When you're car is an afterthought or a compliance vehicle, it shows zero effort, and nobody likes paying premiums for lackluster products
Yeah, but how do they spend tens of billions on afterthoughts is what I am wondering. EVs are supposed to be simpler than ICE vehicles. Battery tech has advanced and supposedly become cheaper. 10 years ago there was still a lot of dev to be done, but everything has come so far now that I just don't see how they could spend tens of billions and have so little to show for it.
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Old Mar 12, 2026 | 10:29 AM
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Americans love underwhelming Hondas but the rest of the world doesn’t. Honda zero cars and Acura RSX no one wanted canceled.



https://www.autonews.com/honda/an-ho...Alert-20260312

Looks like a Cybertruck mated with an Aventador.
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Old Mar 12, 2026 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob04
Yeah, but how do they spend tens of billions on afterthoughts is what I am wondering. EVs are supposed to be simpler than ICE vehicles. Battery tech has advanced and supposedly become cheaper. 10 years ago there was still a lot of dev to be done, but everything has come so far now that I just don't see how they could spend tens of billions and have so little to show for it.
I could be totally off, but IMHO, you have to make a decision to build one or the other, not both. Secondly, you have to go for simplicity, tastefully of course, and later when you have the formula down, premium and or luxury. Lastly, software is a huge component, just as important as battery and charging infrastructure. Bad software leads to a bad experience.

Yes EV's are simpler than ICE, but many automakers haven't figured out how to control the costs, and build a vehicle the general public wants. You can spend Billions, but doesn't mean people will want it
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Old Mar 12, 2026 | 10:46 AM
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I want to add that BMW seems to be growing their EV's, they are now almost 18 percent of sales. I really think they got the ix right, as they seem to be doing pretty well, at least in both the Bay Area and Southern Cal
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Old Mar 12, 2026 | 11:09 AM
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I hope Toyota nails it with this LFA successor BEV. It will probably be close to $150k at least

Bye bye V10, hello solid state: the Lexus LFA will return as a cutting edge BEV
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Old Mar 12, 2026 | 11:33 AM
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^^It absolutely looks the part. Hopefully they can execute on the statement those gorgeous lines make.
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Old Mar 13, 2026 | 11:52 AM
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https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/03...ies-with-suvs/

Lucid getting into the midsized SUV and robotaxi game. Market seems relatively unimpressed by the announcement

Lucid’s entry into the highly competitive, high-volume midsize SUV market will be key to achieving profitability, the company told investors today. And it’s going to do that with a trio of electric SUVs that will use its new midsize EV platform, which it says has been engineered to deliver a starting price below $50,000.

“Today, we’re keeping the same Lucid product and technology DNA intact, while applying increased scale, capital efficiency, and cost discipline, and materially reduced costs, to enable a great business with a clear and credible path to profitability and free cash flow, supported by what we are executing now and what we are building for the future,” said Marc Winterhoff, interim CEO at Lucid.

The company has provided a few details about the first two SUVs due on the new midsize platform. The Lucid Earth is aimed at “trendsetting achievers” and will be the more spacious one. The Lucid Cosmos we expect to be sportier—this one is targeting “upscale nurturers.” The unnamed third SUV will likely be something a bit more off-roady, filling the same niche that Rivian has gone for with its R2.
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Old Mar 13, 2026 | 12:08 PM
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https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/03...ies-with-suvs/

Lucid getting into the midsized SUV and robotaxi game. Market seems relatively unimpressed by the announcement
Market wants a prototype, even its remotely maned by a engineer wfh for the stimmy package.

Elon and tesla showrunners have elevated the bare minimum for stock stimmies.
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Old Mar 13, 2026 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Hameed
I hope Toyota nails it with this LFA successor BEV. It will probably be close to $150k at least

Bye bye V10, hello solid state: the Lexus LFA will return as a cutting edge BEV
Source: trust me bruv

Top gear editor-in-chief, fix the clickbait.
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Old Mar 13, 2026 | 12:11 PM
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Source: trust me bruv

Top gear editor-in-chief, fix the clickbait.
I was wondering when someone would catch this 😊
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Old Mar 13, 2026 | 02:02 PM
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Honda is down bad


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No EV credit = much less interest. Will take time for a new norm to arrive.

https://www.autonews.com/ev/an-ev-re...shakeout-0313/


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Old Mar 13, 2026 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Framestead
Source: trust me bruv

Top gear editor-in-chief, fix the clickbait.
I haven’t heard solid state but i’ve heard crazy power numbers. It looks good for sure. Won’t be cheap either
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Old Mar 13, 2026 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Honda is down bad

not a good thing.
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Old Mar 13, 2026 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
I haven’t heard solid state but i’ve heard crazy power numbers. It looks good for sure. Won’t be cheap either
Probably won't ever exist either, just like most of the promised Lexus EVs.
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