General EV Conversation
kind of makes you wonder, if tesla is shooting themselves in the foot by opening up the SC network to everyone. i assume non-tesla customers will pay a premium over teslas for charging perhaps? either way, i wonder how profitable the SC network is given that tesla has to buy the electricity from the grid mostly.
Tesla is synonymous with EVs right now and may take some time before that changes. The opening up of the charging networks will help over time but until other manufacturers make better all around EVs Tesla will still be the EV of choice for the general population. Over time that may change but it may be a while at the current pace.
Tesla is synonymous with EVs right now and may take some time before that changes. The opening up of the charging networks will help over time but until other manufacturers make better all around EVs Tesla will still be the EV of choice for the general population. Over time that may change but it may be a while at the current pace.
Tesla is synonymous with EVs right now and may take some time before that changes. The opening up of the charging networks will help over time but until other manufacturers make better all around EVs Tesla will still be the EV of choice for the general population. Over time that may change but it may be a while at the current pace.
I keep meaning to check that Bucees that opened up near Sevierville, as of now it is world's largest gas station.
It has a very good amount of Superchargers that I didn't know about, the Tesla map didn't pull it up.
It has a very good amount of Superchargers that I didn't know about, the Tesla map didn't pull it up.
Some are in shopping centers and don't have the solar panel covers like this one
Just confirming, they are Superchargers at this Buc-cee's TN location.
I really don't get the focus on anyone other than Tesla incurring losses, they are an inevitable consequence of a launch. New EVs don't design themselves, factories don't build themselves, sales and marketing isn't free and so on. Some like Ford are also restructuring into EV divisions and pushing losses into the new EV divisions. Losses do carry forward, of course, and will shield future profits from tax, and the R&D can sometimes be offset by certain tax credits. The big number per vehicle losses are simply someone dividing the overall operating or tax losses by vehicles sold, but that doesn't reflect the operating margin per vehicle which may well still be a loss but it's not 35K on a 50K EV.
Tesla basically sells 2 vehicles, the Y and 3. They sell more EVs than all the other companies combined.
Opening up the Superchargers should allow for faster growth. I think that's a big part of the goal. I am very curious about the profit margin, if any...
Rivian expands its delivery van partnership beyond Amazon and now adds AT&T to the mix. RIVN stock was up about 10% today (applause from me) on the news.
https://www.reuters.com/sustainabili...2023-12-14/SAN FRANCISCO, Dec 14 (Reuters) - U.S. wireless carrier AT&T (T.N) will purchase some electric vehicles from startup Rivian (RIVN.O) in a pilot program to evaluate ways to reduce cost, cut carbon emissions and improve safety, the companies said on Thursday.
The deal is the first for Rivian after the company last month ended its exclusivity pact with largest shareholder Amazon (AMZN.O) for its delivery vans, opening the door for more customers.
AT&T expects to start adding Rivian electric commercial vans, R1T pickup trucks, and R1S sport utility vehicles in its fleet in early 2024, they said in a statement.
The companies did not disclose the number of vehicles AT&T will buy or the financial terms of the deal.
AT&T has long been investing in converting its commercial fleet to vehicles that use alternative fuels such as compressed natural gas and hybrid electric vehicles.
"This pilot is another important step in our ongoing efforts toward sustainability, reducing our carbon footprint and embracing a cleaner future for our operations," Hardmon Williams, senior vice president of AT&T Connected Solutions said.
Environmental, social and corporate governance (ESG) goals and emission reduction targets for companies have sparked a race to shift to zero-emission fleets.
But high interest rates have made it costlier for customers to purchase electric vehicles, which that are typically more expensive than their gas-powered counterparts, and raised worries of a slowdown in demand.
https://www.reuters.com/sustainabili...2023-12-14/SAN FRANCISCO, Dec 14 (Reuters) - U.S. wireless carrier AT&T (T.N) will purchase some electric vehicles from startup Rivian (RIVN.O) in a pilot program to evaluate ways to reduce cost, cut carbon emissions and improve safety, the companies said on Thursday.
The deal is the first for Rivian after the company last month ended its exclusivity pact with largest shareholder Amazon (AMZN.O) for its delivery vans, opening the door for more customers.
AT&T expects to start adding Rivian electric commercial vans, R1T pickup trucks, and R1S sport utility vehicles in its fleet in early 2024, they said in a statement.
The companies did not disclose the number of vehicles AT&T will buy or the financial terms of the deal.
AT&T has long been investing in converting its commercial fleet to vehicles that use alternative fuels such as compressed natural gas and hybrid electric vehicles.
"This pilot is another important step in our ongoing efforts toward sustainability, reducing our carbon footprint and embracing a cleaner future for our operations," Hardmon Williams, senior vice president of AT&T Connected Solutions said.
Environmental, social and corporate governance (ESG) goals and emission reduction targets for companies have sparked a race to shift to zero-emission fleets.
But high interest rates have made it costlier for customers to purchase electric vehicles, which that are typically more expensive than their gas-powered counterparts, and raised worries of a slowdown in demand.
Tesla is synonymous with EVs right now and may take some time before that changes. The opening up of the charging networks will help over time but until other manufacturers make better all around EVs Tesla will still be the EV of choice for the general population. Over time that may change but it may be a while at the current pace.














