Is Tesla Electric in your area? My friend switched to it and has free supercharging after 10pm or something to that effect.

 

Just FYI they are Superchargers.

 

I believe Tesla Electric as part of the deal you have to buy their solar panels and batteries. Please someone correct me if this is wrong

 

Love Carwash mode. Wish my car had it,

 

For current EV owners, would you feel comfortable keeping your current or any EV on the market today for 8-10 years with 150 -180k miles? Disregard getting "tired" of it....more from a stand point of battery / motor and range holding up for that time period?

I am projecting to be in the market for a vehicle in 2025 but I will be keeping it long term. On the fence if it should be ICE or a EV.

 

I look at it this way, the EV typically covers the expensive parts - the EV powertrain - for 8 years/100,000 so you already have a longer factory protection than you get on ICE vehicles, and by the time the warranty runs out there's a decent chance any issues you'd want addressed will have flushed themselves out by then. The EV powertrains are rapidly getting better and I fully expect the average EV sold today (or 2025) to run better for longer than the average EV of ten years ago. Another EV benefit (in some cases) is the longer factory warranty on the EV powertrain can reduce the price of an extended warranty for the non-powertrain components. That was true in my case. I never buy extended warranties, the house usually wins, but in my specific case you can buy the factory Ford extended warranty, which for the top plan essentially extends the bumper to bumper, from other dealers and some sell them over the internet at $50 over cost. So the 3K to 4K plan your dealer wants to sell you can be purchased for much less. In my case, I got an eight year warranty for $1600. So anything expensive on my Lightning, be it battery, motors, big touchscreens, self driving sensors or whatever, is covered until 2030. If you know you're going to keep the next vehicle for a long time, this is something to consider. And to add to this, I was able to get my own dealer in CA to sell me the warranty for the same price as the $50 over cost out-of-state volume specialists. They originally wanted well over double what I paid.

 

Thank you for the insight! That 8 year warranty for non powertrain components is a great deal. I think 1 infotainment screen might be more than the cost of that warranty. I did notice the longer powertrain warranty for EVs but its not uncommon for me to drive 20k miles in a year. I feel like if I do have an EV long term, when I am approaching that 100k mile mark I am going to have a slight worry in the back of my head about the battery going out.

I really like the GX550 but the fuel mileage I know wont be great. It's not a huge deal (current car averages 17 mpg and the other 19 mpg) but the savings is undeniable as well as the convenience of "fueling" up at home. Although personally I still enjoy the characteristic of an ICE (hearing the exhaust, approaching redline, gear changes). The only EVs that I actually like inside and out and for the purpose I would want it for is a Rivian R1T and R1S. Seeing the repair cost for minor accidents is shocking though....pretty much turned me off from them. I also like the polestar 3 but not at the current price and will be too small anyway. EV9 looks nice but too slow for me.

Hopefully by 2025 there are more choices for larger SUVs in the EV space.

 

He doesn’t have solar panels or batteries. He signed up for it one night. By the next morning, his electric provider was Tesla Electric. If I’m not mistaken he has free charging at night or the first 300kwh is free. Something to that nature.

 

My PHEV/hybrid warranty is 10yr 150k.

 

Good.The Tesla website didn't pull them up. Lol I'm telling ya though the lines just to even get close to the place are so bad that it's worth running out of gas/range, jk.

I don't see them really ever getting smaller, the lines. I wouldn't try to run in there on fumes or low low range, the car would probably quit EV or ICE. Phones don't even work around there, lol.

 

Yep, and you can mostly thank California for that. CARB requires a 10yr/150K battery warranty for PZEV/TZEV vehicles like your hybrid, so manufacturers basically follow that nationwide. California doesn't currently extend that requirement to zero emission vehicles like a pure battery EV. There's talk of them doing so, but I'm not aware of anything concrete yet.

 

Longer warranties aren't really anything to thank anybody for. You pay for it in the price of the vehicle. Likely another reason EVs are so much more expensive.

 

longer warranties are always good, and if you don't like the price then don't pay it. This really isn't difficult, Bob.

 

We have a dual motor Model 3, currently five years and 60k miles in. Tesla had only been building that config for a few months at that point, but I would be disappointed to only get 5 more years out of it. The power train feels like the most reliable part of the car, tbh.

 

I plan to keep my Model Y at least 10 years/100K. I have friends that have Model S going back to 2016 with over 100K, and several friends that have Model 3's going back to 2018, also with over 100k on them.

Now non Tesla's, at this point I would only lease. I have a lot of reasons for this, one being most legacy automakers as well as EV start-up's are still in their infancy trying to figure things like software, manufacturing at scale, etc