Oh really?

Ford told its dealers that it was reducing weekly production of its F-150 Lightning pickup truck next year in response to slowing customer demand, Automotive News reports. According to a memo viewed by the outlet, Ford told its dealers to prepare for an average production volume of 1,600 electric trucks from its Rouge Electric Vehicle Center in Dearborn, Michigan, starting next year. The company currently churns 3,200 trucks out of that factory each week.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/11/...duce-ev-demand

 

This is also gaslighting. You said repeatedly that "nobody is buying EVs" and that "nobody is buying EVs". You have also continued to say that Ford is cutting production of the Lightning when we have repeatedly shown you that was not true.

 

That is not correct. Their goal was to get to producing ~150,000 Lightnings per year in 2024, they have reduced that goal to ~ 80,000 Lightnings per year. As you see from sales figures they're on track to delivert ~ 35,000 of them n 2023. So yes, that is an increase in production.

https://finance.yahoo.com/video/ford...150058453.html

Read the headline, Ford cutting F-150 Lightning production GOAL

 

Lighting sales are up 50% YoY.

 

And I also said, 3 times, that I was exaggerating and I know you know what I meant.

 

Lol and BTW I'm not the one who even posted the article, haha.

Let's see how this is next year after MY 2024, I'm really sick of arguing about this. Tit for tat.

 

I honestly believe you thought that was all accurate and you weren't exaggerating. You have repeatedly argued that what you see on the road speaks to what is selling and what is not even when confronted with actual data.

Then stop. We're not going to let you post wrong information...we're going to call it out every time

 

Wrong again. You think I literally meant NOBODY was buying them?

I report what I see on the road, and trends. For example many on here flat don't believe me when I say 200s are all over the place. That doesn't mean I think they sold 25,000 a year. You think I judge number of EVs by the amount of Teslas in the nice part of town I live in? Go to the poor parts of town and there are way less EVs.

 

This is the fundamental problem. They were planning to increase the production rate up to 3200 per week in 2024, for a total 2024 production volume of 150k units. Note that if they had originally planed to run at that level for the entire year they would have made ~160k. Instead, they have reduced the plan to 1600 per week, or ~80k units. This is still an increase from the original projection of 70k units for 2023, which is probably going to wind up more like 50-60k.

~80k is an increase from 50-70k. Just not as large of an increase as they previously projected. It is not a reduction.

 

I didn't it's a turn of phrase. No one went to see the The Marvels. Well SOME people did but the movie bombed.

 

You thought Jonny Liberman was actually saying that laptop batteries were worse for the earth than EV batteries

 

That's all I'm really saying. I read that the Ford factory currently produces 3200 from more than one source. I never said once EV sales are falling.

If they don't, and wind up only producing 1600.... we'll see. They may cut production even more.... again we'll see.

 

Ford and every other legacy auto maker needs to make up their mind either go all in on EVs or don't they can't be half assing it producing them in small numbers. The cost equation will never work out unless they massively scale up.

 

Actually, not at all. I actually have no idea what you're talking about. Not even close.

No, I thought it was ridiculous to pretty much call every ICE driver who likes ICEs (and who may point out legit EV shortcoming) a hypocrite like that, to talk down to readers like that. To imply that we lack integrity and he's on a high horse. I'm so happy he's happy with his Rivian in SoCal, but wtf does that have to do with me using my laptop??? Again, my MacBook wasn't previously powered by a V12.

 

AGAIN, Ford has not cut production at all, so they cannot “cut production even more”

The sources saying they currently produce 3200 weekly are wrong. Just do the math relative to the published sales of the vehicle.