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Old May 23, 2024 | 06:05 PM
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It's called "Ultra Red" and apparently it's 10 coats or something to that effect. $3.3k CAD extra
At one point on the S before the beginning of this year there was no upcharge for that color on the Model S. After 1/1 they started upcharging again for colors except stealth gray.
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Old May 23, 2024 | 06:10 PM
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I will be traveling with my Plaid this weekend to PA so hopefully there are so decent charging stations where I’m going. Will report back.
You can easily find out by putting your trip destination in the map. It will layout all the charging stops, and you can research the charging stations ahead of time. But you know that already
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Old May 23, 2024 | 06:46 PM
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If it’s the new metallic red it’s a GREAT red
I'm a horrible sucker for a nice metallic red.
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Old May 23, 2024 | 06:58 PM
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Old May 23, 2024 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Had another wonderful experience at Electrify America chargers. ....... I finally gave up and told her it will be faster to charge at home.
that's bad... as you know, i've had 100% success.
maybe tesla's sabotaging them out there.

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Old May 24, 2024 | 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Hameed
It's called "Ultra Red" and apparently it's 10 coats or something to that effect. $3.3k CAD extra
Tesla has some paints that are many many layers like that but Ultra Red isn't one of them. I think the only thing "special" about Ultra Red is that it has a red-tinted clear coat on top of the red paint, rather than red paint with a non-tinted clear coat.
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Old May 24, 2024 | 11:12 AM
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To you EV officionados, my friends asking what is the reason for global EV slowdown and price cutting?

Is it because the population of early adopters is small and reached its limit, while the remaining mass majority of buyers are not yet ready for electrification, hence sticking mostly to hybrids?
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Old May 24, 2024 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by peteharvey
To you EV officionados, my friends asking what is the reason for global EV slowdown and price cutting?

Is it because the population of early adopters is small and reached its limit, while the remaining mass majority of buyers are not yet ready for electrification, hence sticking mostly to hybrids?
It hasn't slowed down in California, where EV adoption has reached 24.7 percent of market share, and accounts for 26.7 percent of new car sales, which is a record. As far as EV growth in general, it's slowed down but is still growing steadily, the slower growth is most likely due to uncertainty, record high car prices, and high interest rates.

I can tell you where I live, I see hundreds of new EV's everyday. Majority being Tesla, but lots of Mach-E, Ioniq 5's/Kia EV6 and other EV's. Also the non Tesla charging stations are filled, meaning they can't keep up with the demand of EV's on the road

I would say most automakers are doubling down on EV's, not scaling back, especially Hyundai/Kia where there is an explosion of new Ioniq 5's and Kia EV6's
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Old May 24, 2024 | 02:26 PM
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It hasn't slowed down in California, where EV adoption has reached 24.7 percent of market share, and accounts for 26.7 percent of new car sales, which is a record. As
I know you've said math isn't your strong suit 😂 but how do you explain 24.7% market share and 26.7% new car sales? How is market share 24.7%? Wouldn't that mean 1 in 4 cars in the road is an ev?
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
I know you've said math isn't your strong suit 😂 but how do you explain 24.7% market share and 26.7% new car sales? How is market share 24.7%? Wouldn't that mean 1 in 4 cars in the road is an ev?
I didn't come up with those numbers, I pulled it from new registration stats. I think the 26.7 sales number is only Q1 2024
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Old May 24, 2024 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
It hasn't slowed down in California, where EV adoption has reached 24.7 percent of market share, and accounts for 26.7 percent of new car sales, which is a record. As far as EV growth in general, it's slowed down but is still growing steadily, the slower growth is most likely due to uncertainty, record high car prices, and high interest rates.

I can tell you where I live, I see hundreds of new EV's everyday. Majority being Tesla, but lots of Mach-E, Ioniq 5's/Kia EV6 and other EV's. Also the non Tesla charging stations are filled, meaning they can't keep up with the demand of EV's on the road

I would say most automakers are doubling down on EV's, not scaling back, especially Hyundai/Kia where there is an explosion of new Ioniq 5's and Kia EV6's
Let's ignore California.
Talking from a global perspective.
I mean, why are these videos all over the place?

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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
I know you've said math isn't your strong suit 😂 but how do you explain 24.7% market share and 26.7% new car sales? How is market share 24.7%? Wouldn't that mean 1 in 4 cars in the road is an ev?
Here's from the California Energy Commission:
  • 23.9% of all new cars sold in California last quarter were ZEVs, according to the California Energy Commission (CEC)
  • 102,507 sales in Q1 of 2024
  • 1,872,429 total ZEV sales to date
  • 34% of new ZEVs sold in the U.S. are sold in California, according to the California Air Resources Board

https://www.energy.ca.gov/news/2024-...ious%20quarter.
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Old May 24, 2024 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by peteharvey
Let's ignore California.
Talking from a global perspective.
I mean, why are these videos all over the place?

https://youtu.be/hNfquYHvaCk?si=p-w3oEHmlqyG8-Nq
Why would you ignore the largest auto market in North America?? That's like saying lets ignore the cancer I was diagnosed with, it's only in my brain

From a global perspective, China has the largest EV market share, at 32.8 percent

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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Why would you ignore the largest auto market in North America?? That's like saying lets ignore the cancer I was diagnosed with, it's only in my brain

From a global perspective, China has the largest EV market share, at 32.8 percent
Slowing NATIONAL EV sales, EV demand that are tanking, the fact that the market was soooo wrong, companies losing billions and going back on what they said..... the pro EV crowd says it's still a good thing where EVs are going, still on our way to electrification.

If you want to use health as a metaphor I have one.....

That's like getting sick and having an 85% chance to live, but then being told it's now 10% and not changing your attitude and/or readjusting your expectations.
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Old May 24, 2024 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Slowing NATIONAL EV sales, EV demand that are tanking, the fact that the market was soooo wrong, companies losing billions and going back on what they said..... the pro EV crowd says it's still a good thing where EVs are going, still on our way to electrification.

If you want to use health as a metaphor I have one.....

That's like getting sick and having an 85% chance to live, but then being told it's now 10% and not changing your attitude and/or readjusting your expectations.
​​​​​​I know you want EV sales tanking to be a reality, but unfortunately for you it's not. Tanking is negative growth, a downturn is just a slow down. But as people test drive them, they will never be able to go back, because once you get a taste of EV's, it's like going back to something primitive. No offense to ICE.

I challenge you to go out and test drive one, even something like a base model 3, base Ioniq 5, I don't care, and tell me it's not a way better driving experience. I challenge you. And if you tell me it's not, I'll shut up

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