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Your spinning what I said, I never said anyone would run out and trade their existing cars on a whim. But what I would say is if he drove his F-150 and a Lightning back to back, he would say the Lightning drives way better, or he would be lying. I would bet money on that
Open question how that will change over time.
Last edited by AMIRZA786; Feb 20, 2024 at 08:58 PM.
Solar is really not that expensive. Last year my brother in law installed a system for his 6000 sq ft house, and his monthly payment for the system is less than half of what his electricity bill used to be. Over 3 months he generates more electricity than he uses all year, so he effectively has no electricity bill.
If only half the houses in my neighborhood and surrounding areas had solar panels, the extra electricity that we generate in the summer could easily be stored away or used to power another neighborhood. If every house in just my city had solar panels, we could get rid of PG&E and probably have $0 electricity bills.
Of course you need to be in an area where you get at least 3 months of full sun, like Florida, Texas, Arizona, California etc
If only half the houses in my neighborhood and surrounding areas had solar panels, the extra electricity that we generate in the summer could easily be stored away or used to power another neighborhood. If every house in just my city had solar panels, we could get rid of PG&E and probably have $0 electricity bills.
Of course you need to be in an area where you get at least 3 months of full sun, like Florida, Texas, Arizona, California etc
your brother's electric bill before solar was what? my house isn't 6000 sq. ft but my electric bill, worst case is about $350, and if i got solar, there's no way my loan payment would only be $175.
about half the houses powering another neighborhood... during SUNLIGHT maybe, at night not so much.
as for stroring it, that would be STAGGERINGLY expensive, and the reason it's talked about a lot, but barely done at all, except for wasteful boondoggle govt projects.again, solar only provides power during daylight, so batteries (not feasible at scale in any reasonable cost), some other storage, or simply some other backup power source is needed. my vote: nuclear power.
as for 3 months of full sun, what about the other 9 months?
i question some of the math here.
your brother's electric bill before solar was what? my house isn't 6000 sq. ft but my electric bill, worst case is about $350, and if i got solar, there's no way my loan payment would only be $175.
about half the houses powering another neighborhood... during SUNLIGHT maybe, at night not so much.
as for stroring it, that would be STAGGERINGLY expensive, and the reason it's talked about a lot, but barely done at all, except for wasteful boondoggle govt projects.
again, solar only provides power during daylight, so batteries (not feasible at scale in any reasonable cost), some other storage, or simply some other backup power source is needed. my vote: nuclear power.
as for 3 months of full sun, what about the other 9 months?
your brother's electric bill before solar was what? my house isn't 6000 sq. ft but my electric bill, worst case is about $350, and if i got solar, there's no way my loan payment would only be $175.
about half the houses powering another neighborhood... during SUNLIGHT maybe, at night not so much.
as for stroring it, that would be STAGGERINGLY expensive, and the reason it's talked about a lot, but barely done at all, except for wasteful boondoggle govt projects.again, solar only provides power during daylight, so batteries (not feasible at scale in any reasonable cost), some other storage, or simply some other backup power source is needed. my vote: nuclear power.
as for 3 months of full sun, what about the other 9 months?
So here's what happens. You produce XXX per day and use XX. What you haven't used becomes a credit. So at night, you are using electricity from the grid, but because you have produced more than you used, they pull from your credits. Those credit continue to build. At the end of the year if you've produced more than you used all year, then they send you a check.
I would have to pull last years bill, but I produced more than I used, and had about $650 in credits, so my yearly "True-up" was a negative balance. This year I'm afraid I'm going to use more than I produce due to having 4 electric cars, but we'll see come June/July.
BTW you still produce in the winter, but at usually half of what you produce in the summer. The summer months are where you produce the majority of your electricity for the year, between May and August I can easily produce 5000 kWh
my vote: nuclear power.
Last edited by AMIRZA786; Feb 20, 2024 at 10:20 PM.
Solar is simply getting too cheap to ignore and prices are going to keep falling. I don't see why every new home can't have solar plus storage the system pays for itself long before most people pay off their mortgage.
More propaganda. Today I was at Tesla Fremont, there were hundreds of people picking up their orders, looking at cars. There were thousands of Tesla's waiting to be loaded on trucks. Doesn't look like a demand problem where I'm standing. Number one and number two best selling cars here doesn't require gas
More propaganda. Today I was at Tesla Fremont, there were hundreds of people picking up their orders, looking at cars. There were thousands of Tesla's waiting to be loaded on trucks. Doesn't look like a demand problem where I'm standing. Number one and number two best selling cars here doesn't require gas
https://explodingtopics.com/blog/ele...ehicles-stats#
Life looks a little different outside of California. 👀
https://explodingtopics.com/blog/ele...ehicles-stats#
Life looks a little different outside of California. 👀
Without the California car market, Tesla would have never even gotten off the ground
And while you are at it, you can also thank us for hybrid's. Californians buy the bulk of Toyota/Lexus hybrid and PHEVS.
You're welcome
Last edited by AMIRZA786; Feb 20, 2024 at 11:13 PM.
Without Cali we wouldn't have the modern CPU or would have come many years later. Fun fact: the Intel 4004 ran at 740 KHz.
Look forward to hearing how the plug-in hybrid sector is booming what they'll leave out is they are replacing gas only cars.
Look forward to hearing how the plug-in hybrid sector is booming what they'll leave out is they are replacing gas only cars.
As for demand problems. Vehicle purchase demand is way down in general. I have been shopping for a car and the salespeople I have talked to have said February has been a terrible month, one of the worst months they have had in years. My business partner just bought a Pacifica and they said the same thing. So, I wouldn’t single out lower EV demand as being EV specific.
More propaganda. Today I was at Tesla Fremont, there were hundreds of people picking up their orders, looking at cars. There were thousands of Tesla's waiting to be loaded on trucks. Doesn't look like a demand problem where I'm standing. Number one and number two best selling cars here doesn't require gas
It seems like traditional manufactures are having issues, though. In the past couple weeks, Mazda, Audi and Hyundai have reached out to me to see if I was still in the market.












