2019 Toyota Avalon
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To me, the 2018 Camry seems more of an upmarket car than the new 2019 Avalon. The Camry's interior is so much more cohesive and premium than the Avalon's.
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It seems like either I have no taste or Toyota has the worst designers in the world. Each one of their cars seems to get uglier and uglier by the year. This thing looks absolutely horrible. The grills are getting more and more grotesque year by year. When will this end?
i guess it will only end when people stop buying Toyotas, but either people seem to like ugly or I am out of touch with reality.
I am am glad we have Lexus. At least one can get Toyota quality and reliability without the ugliness.
i guess it will only end when people stop buying Toyotas, but either people seem to like ugly or I am out of touch with reality.
I am am glad we have Lexus. At least one can get Toyota quality and reliability without the ugliness.
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with the FF layout it'll never be a true sports sedan competitor, so idk why they're going more in the sports direction with the avalon. the one pictured above is literally a couch that floats and caresses you down the road with a cushy arthritis friendly seat. toyota currently has no such offering and i personally would much rather see the avalon go back to that. the sales manager has an avalon and doesn't like it for the ride and firm seat. he even admitted to just leasing it (very good lease at the time) without really driving it too much because of the safe assumption that "well it's an avalon so it'll be comfortable right?
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Clearly in the minority here, but I actually don't mind this and somewhat like it (especially the Limited - still undecided on the Touring). Looks a bit too much like a Maxima from the side though. I'll also respectfully disagree with some prior comments that the Avalon needs to stick to being a 60+ year old's car. I'm under 40 and have owned all of the LS series since I was 28 (400, 430, 460). How many 28 year olds do you see driving an LS??!! I see nothing wrong with Toyota making some styling changes to this car to get rid of the stigma that it's a "grandpa" or "grandma" car. Several of my buddies in my neighborhood who are all similar age are driving the largest sedans by their favorite manufacturer (7 series, Q70L, etc). I personally think Toyota is smart to attempt to re-brand the Avalon and make it attractive for 30-50 year olds. Might be a great step up for someone trading in a Corolla or Camry that can't pull the trigger or see the value in a LS.
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Clearly in the minority here, but I actually don't mind this and somewhat like it (especially the Limited - still undecided on the Touring). Looks a bit too much like a Maxima from the side though. I'll also respectfully disagree with some prior comments that the Avalon needs to stick to being a 60+ year old's car. I'm under 40 and have owned all of the LS series since I was 28 (400, 430, 460). How many 28 year olds do you see driving an LS??!! I see nothing wrong with Toyota making some styling changes to this car to get rid of the stigma that it's a "grandpa" or "grandma" car. Several of my buddies in my neighborhood who are all similar age are driving the largest sedans by their favorite manufacturer (7 series, Q70L, etc). I personally think Toyota is smart to attempt to re-brand the Avalon and make it attractive for 30-50 year olds. Might be a great step up for someone trading in a Corolla or Camry that can't pull the trigger or see the value in a LS.
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believe me i hope probably more than anyone here that the new avalon does well because i do think it's pretty sharp looking and i really love the interior, but if this has the firm seat and unimpressive ride of the current one i just don't see it doing all that well
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There could be two reasons for the reception the Avalon has received here. The styling is polarizing and not many CL members in the Avalon's age demographic (55-60 or so?).
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Clearly in the minority here, but I actually don't mind this and somewhat like it (especially the Limited - still undecided on the Touring). Looks a bit too much like a Maxima from the side though. I'll also respectfully disagree with some prior comments that the Avalon needs to stick to being a 60+ year old's car. I'm under 40 and have owned all of the LS series since I was 28 (400, 430, 460). How many 28 year olds do you see driving an LS??!! I see nothing wrong with Toyota making some styling changes to this car to get rid of the stigma that it's a "grandpa" or "grandma" car. Several of my buddies in my neighborhood who are all similar age are driving the largest sedans by their favorite manufacturer (7 series, Q70L, etc). I personally think Toyota is smart to attempt to re-brand the Avalon and make it attractive for 30-50 year olds. Might be a great step up for someone trading in a Corolla or Camry that can't pull the trigger or see the value in a LS.
Though it would have clearly stretched my budget at the time, I might have had an LS at age 28, IF the car had been on the market then....it wasn't. It wouldn't be out for another 10 years. But this idea that big, soft-riding cars are only for old folks is complete nonsense....I chuckle every time I read that (so would some of my friends from as far back as high school). The main problem with these cars (in relation to young people) is that they cost so much, not that they are too cushy in their road manners.
Back to the Avalon, I fully agree with Stroock...the softer the seats and ride, the more it will appeal to those who like the car most, young or old.
Originally Posted by Stroock639
but if this has the firm seat and unimpressive ride of the current one i just don't see it doing all that well
Last edited by mmarshall; Jan 17, 2018 at 08:18 AM.
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Styling was done on purpose. You want a reaction from people. Worse thing would no reaction such as a “meh” attitude. I do t think there are any members on her who actually have ever owned an Avalon. So a response from anyone on here (good or bad) the styling is working
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I think the Avalon"s age bracket is well over 60. 55 is way too young for people to be interested in cars like the Avalon but there are a few exceptions I am sure. I am pretty young and nowhere near the age bracket but I have always been somewhat interested in a Avalon because I have always liked bigger sedans, especially ones that are nicer then standard mid sized family sedans though I can't say I ever wanted a Avalon. If it was a choice between a Avalon and Camry I would take the Avalon simply because it is nicer. I liked the Cressida when it was out though I was really young but I still saw it had a nice interior with more features then the avg Camry.