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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 05:23 PM
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Thx spwolf/hoovey !! very excited about what the RC.
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
RC, IS, GS are likely. For someone just looking for a very nice car without the need for extra power a GS200t with a Luxury Package would be perfect.

RX however interesting thought. I wouldn't mind it, but it may cause too much overlap with the NX. Who knows.

Either way they seem to be making FWD and RWD applications of both the 2.5L I4 Hybrid and 2.0L I4 Turbo for their vehicles.
oh yeah, RX is coming for sure, at least some parts of the world... They sell RX270 with 2.7l 4cly in China so I am sure they will be very happy with RX200t.

V6 is too big for every market other than US and Middle East.

p.s. imagine how well that RX270 goes - it is a Venza engine... heck, i think they started making Prado with it too.
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
oh yeah, RX is coming for sure, at least some parts of the world... They sell RX270 with 2.7l 4cly in China so I am sure they will be very happy with RX200t.

V6 is too big for every market other than US and Middle East.

p.s. imagine how well that RX270 goes - it is a Venza engine... heck, i think they started making Prado with it too.
You're right, I was thinking more Stateside than International. Turbo does a future in the RX
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel350
Looks like the RC will have the Turbo option: https://www.clublexus.com/articles/n...o-revealed.php
I don't see anything in this article regarding a turbo option for the RC (I have been known to miss things), however Edmunds has mentioned a turbo option somewhere. Let's hope it's true! I need a replacement for my Avalon in 18 months, and my wife's 3IS already has me itching for a Lexus.
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel350
Looks like the RC will have the Turbo option:

https://www.clublexus.com/articles/n...o-revealed.php
isn't that for the 4 cylinders RC250? knowing Lexus they will make it 210hp turbo... the RC350 will have the same engine as the 2014 IS350. now unless they somehow trick us and let us modify the 4 cylinder and upgrade the turbo with after market parts and make it faster then the RC350
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 08:20 PM
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U want more power.. RC F is on the way
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 08:22 PM
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210 HP for a 2.0 turbo? That would be very disappointing. I'm hoping for something around 235-250HP.
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
if i had to guess, i would say that rear shot of 4 series is with seats moved all the way to the front... it looks like stretched 7 series back there, hah.

I sure hope RC has space for kids in the back... i guess we will learn soon enough. At least seat angle is same as in 3IS, and not upright like in ISc or SC
Well the RC does cut 2.7" off the 110.2" wheelbase of the IS into a shorter 107.5" wheelbase (incidentally, that's the 2IS's wheelbase!), while the 4-series maintains the same 110.6" wheelbase of the 3-series. But I guess you're right in that the difference shouldn't be that dramatic, and that the RC's rear seats should be still somewhat livable (as livable as the 2IS's) once the fronts seats are pushed forward.

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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ydooby
Well the RC does cut 2.7" off the 110.2" wheelbase of the IS into a shorter 107.5" wheelbase (incidentally, that's the 2IS's wheelbase!), while the 4-series maintains the same 110.6" wheelbase of the 3-series. But I guess you're right in that the difference shouldn't be that dramatic, and that the RC's rear seats should be still somewhat livable (as livable as the 2IS's) once the fronts seats are pushed forward.
Well the 4 series is a 3 series with a different name. The RC chief eniginer has stated the car is not an IS coupe but is on its own path with significant focus on making it it's own car. Thus the wheelbase change and comeplety different body and upgraded interior.
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ydooby
Well the RC does cut 2.7" off the 110.2" wheelbase of the IS into a shorter 107.5" wheelbase (incidentally, that's the 2IS's wheelbase!), while the 4-series maintains the same 110.6" wheelbase of the 3-series. But I guess you're right in that the difference shouldn't be that dramatic, and that the RC's rear seats should be still somewhat livable (as livable as the 2IS's) once the fronts seats are pushed forward.
my comment was more about 4 series press shots - it doesnt look like 3 series back space, if you look LS460l press shots and compare to 4 series, you would think 4 series has more space at the back... it looks like a van back there :-).

of course, thats how they did the press shots on purpose.
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by mordecai
210 HP for a 2.0 turbo? That would be very disappointing. I'm hoping for something around 235-250HP.
it is not going to be 250hp for sure... it is going to be sold as base engine, so 200-220hp max.
BMW's N20 2.0 turbo engine starts at 180hp and ends up at 240hp.

I wouldnt be surprised that Toyota application see less than 200hp too. However, expectations are different - you expect your Toyota and Lexus turbo to last forever while BMW's N20's... heh.
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 02:41 AM
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Is the upcoming 2.0 turbo meant to replace the IS250? Or will it just be slotted below it?

If it is meant as 250 replacement, then 210 HP should be the minimum (considering that the 4GR-FSE engine is 204-206 hp)

As for me, if you ask my opinion, I wouldn't settle for an RC200T, RC250 nor the RC300h..............as I would rather go straight for the RC350 and RC-F

Let's get it on
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
The N55 will be changed next year when the 4series GranCoupe comes out.
Also u are able to purchase Mperf pack to get better HP and TQ numbers.

The N55 is also much more powerful and fuel efficient compared to the Lexus 3.5 v6.
It is heavily underated at 300hp.
The N55 is only more fuel efficient in the newer models because of stop/start, which I wouldn't trust anyway. We have a 2011 135i here which has the N55 without stop/start, and real world economy is about identical to the IS350 V6. With that being said, the N55 is definitely more powerful, so even with the same efficiency it's a much better engine.
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackraven
Is the upcoming 2.0 turbo meant to replace the IS250? Or will it just be slotted below it?

If it is meant as 250 replacement, then 210 HP should be the minimum (considering that the 4GR-FSE engine is 204-206 hp)

As for me, if you ask my opinion, I wouldn't settle for an RC200T, RC250 nor the RC300h..............as I would rather go straight for the RC350 and RC-F

Let's get it on
we can only guess... i think main draw of turbo application would be torque, so it doesnt matter if it is 190 or 210, it is going to be faster from low revs.

in different cars, it would probably be applied differently... for SUVs they would maximize the torque and for RC probably top end.

Here in Europe, V6 and V8 are almost dead... it is not a problem to buy it, problem is to sell it later on. I have not seen a M car in a long time, before streets were full of them.
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ydooby
One potential deal breaker for some is how little rear legroom there is in the RC compared to the 4-series. The RC's rear seats are SC-like--practically uninhabitable for normal humans, it seems.

versus the 4-series:



Hopefully the RC's rear seats do fold down though. Don't know yet.
You just have to take a look at the seat and armrest relation to come to conclusion that 4 has the passenger seat moved all the way to the front and that rear leg space is available only when you are getting in or out of the car or if you are riding in the back with no passenger up front.

Due to longer wheelbase 4 series would most likely end up with more rear leg room than RC but it will be nothing as pictured above in real life application.
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