I hope we get a higher redline than the usual 6500 or so. I'm assuming if this is the same 5.0 V-8 and it gained 50hp then the redline is higher.....

 

There is something intoxicating about those red lines in the stratosphere. You get above 7k rpm and thre is still plenty of room to keep on pushing I wonder if they do it to maintain reliability

 

8k Redline on the 5.0L V8 would be nice

 

Boosted V8 like in the TMG LS making 650hp would be nicer.

 

This would be a game changer.

 

The Germans are all at 575 hp, I wouldn't call 650 hp game changing, is just a little more.

 

back then the first ls400 didn't really have more power than the euros either. but the overall package changed the game

 

Technically that's a huge difference. It takes more effort to squeeze more power out and you need a tranny to handle that among other things. It's like going from S63 to S65

 

The Germans turbo/supercharge. I don't know why people pretend that's a remarkable achievement. Forced induction = laziness, there is nothing innovative or amazing about it. Slap a turbocharger or supercharger on an engine and you will get more power/torque.

 

That is true. But the subject mention here is regarding the HP only

BTW, the 1990 LS400 had 250 hp.

1990 420SEL had 228 hp.

In 1990, BMW only had a 735i with 208 hp, then they introduce the 740i with a 282 hp 4.0 V8 in 1992, probably because of the arrival of the LS400.

Back then in the days of LS400 and GS400, Lexus do have more hp then the Euros

Now that I think about it, even the 1st gen GS300 had 225 hp from that 3.0L 2JZ, the same era E34 535i only had 208 hp from it's 3.5L Inline-6.

 

The best car article is guessing at the 465ps. Theyre just going off the RC-F running the same engine. So take a look at the red RC-F in the best car article, then look at the rear or the GT500 race car and you can see the little flares on the rear bumper just below the rear lights;

 

Yes is a big difference, I just won't call it game changing. Even the S63 and S65 is not a big difference in speed, only big difference is the V12 feeling much smoother.

The Tesla Model S with 445 lb-ft of torque @ 0 rpm, that is a game changer.

 

Seriously, it's like Lexus has 2 brains that are not talking to each other. One side has the sublime chassis that can handle the hp( 4th Gen GS L10 platform from Lexus Japan) and one side has the powertrain ( 650hp powerplant/drivetrain from Lexus TMG). Just put these 2 together for crying out loud.....

Unless Lexus is playing its cards close to the chest and will only unveil a new powerplant over and above the RC-F's NA V8 closer to the time of unveiling the GS-F. It doesn't want to show its hand too early for fear that the Germans will tune-up their engines in a mid-life refresh just to play one-up-man-ship on that 650hp number...

 

No one even knows what the RC-F officially makes in terms of power. So the numbers on the GS-F are guesswork.

 

TS-650 drive...