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Old Sep 6, 2013 | 01:43 PM
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LF-CC remote touch:


LF-NX remote touch:


RC F remote touch? notice the "crosshair" in front of the shifter...
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Old Sep 6, 2013 | 01:49 PM
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^Nicely spotted!!! Glad they're actually putting it in production. I imagine the interface will involve lots of gesture-based controls in line with the current smartphones/tablets, but am curious to see how they implement text input.
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Old Sep 6, 2013 | 03:12 PM
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what a great catch! has anyone played with audi's version of this UI?
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Old Sep 6, 2013 | 03:19 PM
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"crosshair" in front of the shifter ? that does not make any sense. The shifter will always be in the way.
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Old Sep 6, 2013 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SNiiP3R
"crosshair" in front of the shifter ? that does not make any sense. The shifter will always be in the way.
it looks to be in exactly the same spot as the regular "mouse" remote touch. the perspective just makes it appear in front of the shifter.

anyways, the pic of the RCF isnt new, i just wanted to show how the RCF remote touch looks like both the LF-CC and the LF-NX. at first i was skeptical that the RCF interior had a touchpad. but seeing the crosshair on both concepts means this is clearly what lexus plans to do. if they use the remote touch like a smartphone/tablet screen (pinch zoom ) then idrive, etc will be obsolete overnight...
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Old Sep 6, 2013 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by madfast
the reason is simple. fuel economy. its no coincidence that the RCF is rumored to have cylinder deactivation. there was talk about the 5L V8 being unable to pass euro6, and now we have reports that it can with cylinder deactivation. toyota/lexus will be conservative in their engines because they have to care about mpg.
They don't have to do anything. Ferrari doesn't care about fuel economy. They just pay the annual fine, as do a couple of mainstream car companies IIRC.

There's no law against having poor fuel economy. You can do that. You just have to pay a fine.

Edit: Just to be clear, it's very much analogous to Obamacare. You don't *have* to buy health insurance if you don't want to, although there is a fine associated with that. I mean in that sense there is a law for average fuel economy, but it's nuanced and car companies ignore it and pay the fine all the time.
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Old Sep 6, 2013 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dmvp29
They don't have to do anything. Ferrari doesn't care about fuel economy. They just pay the annual fine, as do a couple of mainstream car companies IIRC.

There's no law against having poor fuel economy. You can do that. You just have to pay a fine.

Edit: Just to be clear, it's very much analogous to Obamacare. You don't *have* to buy health insurance if you don't want to, although there is a fine associated with that. I mean in that sense there is a law for average fuel economy, but it's nuanced and car companies ignore it and pay the fine all the time.
Well, Ferrari now has PHEV which will help them with their economy (workaround the European MPG testing, basically cheating).
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Old Sep 6, 2013 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dmvp29
They don't have to do anything. Ferrari doesn't care about fuel economy. They just pay the annual fine, as do a couple of mainstream car companies IIRC.

There's no law against having poor fuel economy. You can do that. You just have to pay a fine.

Edit: Just to be clear, it's very much analogous to Obamacare. You don't *have* to buy health insurance if you don't want to, although there is a fine associated with that. I mean in that sense there is a law for average fuel economy, but it's nuanced and car companies ignore it and pay the fine all the time.
toyota/lexus are all in on hybrids. mpg means a lot to them. they're not in the business of selling gas guzzlers right next to their hybrids, EVs, and fuel cells...
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Old Sep 10, 2013 | 11:20 PM
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Sorry if this has been covered already.
But anyone know if they will release this with a 6 speed manual transmission?
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Sh1nra
Sorry if this has been covered already.
But anyone know if they will release this with a 6 speed manual transmission?
lexus doesn't do manual transmissions.
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
NO ONE does manual transmissions.
Fixed With even the GT3 going PDK, Lambo, Ferrari dropping manuals, there is no way Lexus would offer one and it traditionally it wouldn't be that great anyway. Not to mention if this is using the same 5.0 from the IS F a manual would only make it less efficient with worse emissions scores for Europe's market.

Everything points to the Lexus 8 speed which is a fantastic transmission. From my understanding the Lexus LF CC will debut a new transmission, possibly dual clutch and new technologies to merge hybrid tech with sports tech.
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Blueprint
Fixed With even the GT3 going PDK, Lambo, Ferrari dropping manuals, there is no way Lexus would offer one and it traditionally it wouldn't be that great anyway. Not to mention if this is using the same 5.0 from the IS F a manual would only make it less efficient with worse emissions scores for Europe's market.

Everything points to the Lexus 8 speed which is a fantastic transmission. From my understanding the Lexus LF CC will debut a new transmission, possibly dual clutch and new technologies to merge hybrid tech with sports tech.
imo toyota is going to stick with the traditional AT. its not all bad though. its smoother and planetary gearsets make it easy to have 9+ speeds in a very compact package. notice DCTs are up to 7 speeds, but ATs are into the 9 speeds with 10 speeds on the horizon. also i see ATs following mazda's lead by decreasing the size of the torque converter and using the lock up clutch a lot more. the ISF does this but i see this happening industry wide. in essence, i see ATs acting more like automated manuals than old school slushboxes.
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 08:40 AM
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Also I wonder will it use a traditional LSD ala IS F and LS F-sport. Or optional rear steer ala GS and IS (overseas). Or both
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 03:06 PM
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Happy to announce the RC and NX will be the first Lexus's to offer a Track Pad!!

Happy Friday!!
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Happy to announce the RC and NX will be the first Lexus's to offer a Track Pad!!
So it'll be called the Track Pad. More info on how it works would be appreciated!
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