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Old Mar 2, 2014 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and vertical vs horizontal is just a matter of preference.

And yes, cost cutting. The new 2014 CT navigation is no longer pop up either, it's a fixed screen.
lol further cost cutting to rid of the motor, haha. Since it looks like it should pop up
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Old Mar 2, 2014 | 06:49 PM
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lol further cost cutting to rid of the motor, haha. Since it looks like it should pop up
yeah, they made it thinner so kind of looks like tablet or something... since none of the germans actually popup, reviews of new CT200h from Europe say that it finally looks great (the screen), which is funny.

It is also now standard, at least in Europe, despite them lowering the price substantially. Before screen only came with nav, which was very expensive and not many people got it. So they are now giving it for "free" compared to old model, i guess not really cost cutting... they used Yen value to boost the equipment levels.
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Old Mar 2, 2014 | 07:54 PM
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Looks like lexus is making the display audio with the rotary dial standard across the line, which is good. I wish they make the remote touch controller standard as well. Its as if lexus can't make up their minds about what type of controller to use
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Old Mar 2, 2014 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
yeah, they made it thinner so kind of looks like tablet or something... since none of the germans actually popup, reviews of new CT200h from Europe say that it finally looks great (the screen), which is funny.

It is also now standard, at least in Europe, despite them lowering the price substantially. Before screen only came with nav, which was very expensive and not many people got it. So they are now giving it for "free" compared to old model, i guess not really cost cutting... they used Yen value to boost the equipment levels.
For the record, Audi's screens are still motorized. Useless to have them motorized if you ask me, but whatever.
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Old Mar 2, 2014 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RXSF
Looks like lexus is making the display audio with the rotary dial standard across the line, which is good. I wish they make the remote touch controller standard as well. Its as if lexus can't make up their minds about what type of controller to use
well yeah, since Toyota's in Europe have standard display audio on 95% of the models, it was silly for Lexus not to have it. I mean for Auris and Yaris, only fleet versions dont not have it standard - all others do, while CT200h, a lot more expensive, didnt have it standard but part of very expensive nav/ml package. So 2014 CT200h got a lot more standard kit, plus they lowered the price... now it is good deal for what you get, wasnt for a while.
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Old Mar 2, 2014 | 09:20 PM
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Only on the a8 right? oh and the a6 i think

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Old Mar 2, 2014 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TangoRed
For the record, Audi's screens are still motorized. Useless to have them motorized if you ask me, but whatever.
didnt realize that, i saw that latest concept where they had tablet that can be taken off.
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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by RXSF
Looks like lexus is making the display audio with the rotary dial standard across the line, which is good. I wish they make the remote touch controller standard as well.
From Lexus' point-of-view, there has to be an up-sell, right?

Back on topic, I'm getting concerned - we're one day prior to the Geneva Autoshow and no word yet on the production version of the NX...
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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 11:52 AM
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^Not happening at this autoshow. Talked to Mike (LexFather) this morning and he said most likely NYC next month.
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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 11:55 AM
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RC350 F-Sport at Geneva
NX at New York Autoshow

makes sense, keeps the focus separate
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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 12:04 PM
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Could it be they are making some last minute changes to the NX? I d rather they make it right than rush it out.
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Well, I hope LexFather is wrong, but being realistic, from a marketing standpoint and as Hoovey2411 stated, makes sense to NOT have two debuts in one show as it will dilute the reveal one from the other. I don't think it would be due to fixes or changes since the unveiling of prototypes are always "subject to change" in some details.
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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 01:17 PM
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Prototype? I thought the next reveal was for the production version slated for sale later this year.
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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rogerh00
Prototype? I thought the next reveal was for the production version slated for sale later this year.
What they reveal as Production always has the disclaimer it's a prototype in case of any minor tweaks (you might be mixing up prototype with a concept vehicle). So take for example the Production RC F recently unveiled, and notice how they were not specific on hp numbers "in excess of 450 hp" - this could be as conservative as 460 hp or as wishful as 480 hp as my guesstimated range. They're doing some final tweaking likely to meet EPA, emissions, certification, etc while attaining the max hp possible.

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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 04:38 PM
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It's all semantics I guess. The car industry just covering itself. It's really a prototype production vehicle then. I'd say this prototype needed more work on it. Because holding it back doesn't make sense to me. I could care less about the RC and have been waiting for the NX it seems a long time. It two different customer bases.
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