Has anyone experience with a late model Genesis? There are reviewers saying Genesis's top offerings are 90% of LS460s at 50% of the price. Comments?

 

I will just say I now think they are worth considering. Ever since my first gen lexus cars I feel they have gone down hill

 

I just purchased a 2020 Genesis G90 two day ago. Sold my 2013 LS to buy it. I cost about $10,000 Less than my Lexus when I bought it. The Genesis is a much nicer car. Better looking inside and out. more options. all safety features. Real wood and Napa leather quiet, no wind noise. Very happy with the change.

 

How would you describe the Genesis ride, plush? comfortable? like the LS? Something else? As quiet as your LS?
Thank you

 

Did you have any reliability issues with LS or for that matter any other dissatisfaction? Just wondering.
Congratulations on the purchase. I might consider a used G90 some day but there is still brand stigma in my household.

 

Congrats! looking at a 2020 G90 myself (soon) - w00t!

 

The G90 is a great car and very comparable to the LS. No air suspension option, so the ride isn't quite as elegant if you are comparing to an air suspension LS. They're very quiet, very comparable there too. Stylingwise I think the LS is a better looking car, the 2020 refresh G90 is a little bling-y for me.

Dealer service is a big difference, although they will come get it and drop it back off for service, and service is included.

If buying new and comparing to an LS500, I would have a hard time not choosing the G90. If buying used, Id still get an LS.

 

Not sure I understand about dealer service. Do you mean Genesis's is better than Lexus? My Lexus dealer's service is not good. I use an independent if I need something done, post warranty (it's a 2011 I bought in 2014, warranty's gone I think, though the car's got only 28K miles.)
Preferring a Genesis to an LS500 surprises me. I was thinking of replacing my LS460 with a Genesis. What other years do your comments about the Genesis G90 apply to?

 

Did you consider earlier years G90s? I hate to take the big first year's depreciation, have for my last several cars purchased 3-yr-old models. Is the 2020 G90 significantly different than earlier ones?

 

No lol, Lexus dealer service is dramatically better than Hyundai. There is no such thing as a "Genesis dealer" they are sold and serviced through Hyundai dealers, which have none of the high end atmosphere or service you get from Lexus.

The LS500 is a very different vehicle from the LS460. Its much sportier, tighter, firmer. The G90 is a more traditional luxury sedan like the LS460 was which is why I would choose one. Would I choose a G90 over an S Class? Not for any reason other than price, but I would choose the G90 over the LS500 even at the same price just because of the vehicle's design.

The G90 is still in its first generation. The 2020 is heavily refreshed but from a drive perspective they're pretty much unchanged.

The G90 was a vehicle that clearly was designed with the LS as a benchmark, it feels a LOT like the LS.

 

My neighbor has a 2020 Kia K900. It is one of the nicest cars I’ve seen in a while. Rides like a dream with a luxurious interior. Has every feature you could want. Another neighbor has a 2017 K900. It too is a fine ride with all the bells and whistles. The interior is different but still very nice I’m impressed. But the service is limited as mentioned. There’s not a dedicated dealership.

 

2 neighbors with K900s lol. I dont think Ive ever seen even one K900!

 

I’ve never purchased anything other than Toyota or lexus in my family. I do consider the Genesis a true contender now for me personally. I love the long wheel base of it.

I think Genesis is a good name despite people calling a Hyundai Genesis. Like someone calling my LS a Toyota Lexus!

 

I think it's understandable in this case; Genesis was just a model name for Hyundai for nine years, before the new brand was established and the Hyundai Genesis was renamed to Genesis G80.

The LS400 and the LS430 were sold in Japan as the Toyota Celsior, but since that only happened in the domestic market, it probably had little impact on their brand abroad.

 

[QUOTE=SW17LS;10720763]No lol, Lexus dealer service is dramatically better than Hyundai. There is no such thing as a "Genesis dealer" they are sold and serviced through Hyundai dealers, which have none of the high end atmosphere or service you get from Lexus.

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"High end atmosphere" are other words for "Adds to cost of service" and is unimportant to me. My dealer installed a very nice waiting area with comfortable chairs and tvs about 20 years ago...and apparently hasn't spent a cent on maintaining it; it's gotten rather shabby. You may have seen my post about a service writer doing unapproved things, making the cost higher than the "special" coupon oil change, rotate tires, "inspection" I had. That was at a Lexus dealer. They also changed the a/c air filter and the entire a/c system stopped working properly. They said to bring it back and they'll see what's wrong. That will mean I'll spend the best part of a day waiting, but I'll do it. There's a 50/50 chance they'll say it's not their fault. The waiting room of the independent Toyota/Lexus shop I usually use is a few plastic chairs, they don't offer free coffee, but charge about half or less than the dealer does, and saved me over $700 when my instrument panel lights went out, and the dealer said the panel would have to be replaced for about $1200 (it was a while ago, surely more $ now), it couldn't be fixed. The independent sent it off to be refurbished, then reinstalled it, for a total about $500.
I bought a 1994 LS in 1997 from a Lexus dealer, who tried to fool me by showing a Kelley BB with a higher value than they were asking. I took the book from the salesman and it was outdated by six months, which was why the stated value was higher.
My 2011 LS460 noses down when braking, and the ride has always seemed not as smooth as my '94. The dealer's chief mechanic took it for a test ride and said the ride was not up to standards, that there was a bulletin about it, and they'd fix it at no cost. The Lexus area manager wouldn't approve it until he'd checked it, and an appointment was made for him to come to my city. He and the chief mechanic went for a test ride. Upon returning, the area manager said he didn't find anything wrong with the ride, and the chief mechanic now AGREED with him.
I think Lexus dealers are as honest and reliable as most dealers, i.e. not much.