Anyone consider MB E class?
Personally I find Mercedes to be too common. I see many of both the E class and S class daily where I may see one or two LS's
I made a 800 mile trip to Niagara Falls this summer, I counted 9 LS 460's I saw in the 1600 round trip commute. I must have seen 100 e classes.
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And still like the LS interior compared to most.
But even with the sport LS I still like the way the Germans cars drive.
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If youre going to get into one make sure its an AMG. That way if your in the shop every month at least the ridiculous power will make up for it.
I did test drive a CL600 V12 twin turbo , and ive never felt anything like that in my life, I almost bought it , I backed out last minute, reliability is a major major concern for me as im far from rich.
The LS is significantly quieter, features higher quality soft touch materials throughout and is ergonomically superior. By design, the LS isolates the driver from the outside world which translates for many to be an unengaging driving characteristic. On the other hand, it is slow by today's standards and can't dance. It would make an excellent long-distance cruiser for just about anyone. Around town, you'd have to be willing to sit back and enjoy it for what it is.
The Merc isn't nearly as quiet inside, it's leather isn't nearly as soft, features questionable button layout on the center stack and has less rear seat room - but, the bar set by the LS for this comparo is incredibly high. If we were comparing the E to a GS, it would be much closer. While the E is more competent in the bends, its std sport susp really should perform better. On the other hand, it goes like stink without a mpg penalty or feature penalty.
Feature-wise, I think both are similar - but, please realize I don't the know LS as well as the E. Both have AWD. Each has swiveling bi-xenon headlights w/adaptive brights. Big audio with loads of inputs available in each, but the ML is prob better than the HK. Navi in both, but the Lexus' functionality is much simpler. Smart key with touch start/stop. Heated / cooled front seats. Auto-dimming mirrors. Tilt down rear side mirror in reverse. Park hold and hill holder assist. Radar cruise are available, but I think rare options on both. Etc.
Both have motorized rear windshield screens, but the E doesn't get rear side screens until '13. And they're manual at that. No separate hvac controls for the rear seaters; no rear heated /vented seats either.
I think the Merc has a few things the LS does not, like lane departure warning and bind spot warning. Sport seat option for the driver with massage. Merc also has a dual pane "pano" roof option versus the single pane in the LS. Merc has multi-function screen inside the speedo that shows much more info than the LS does between its tach and speedo. Merc has a system that determines when the driver is getting sleepy / inattentive. The Merc driver can also open and close its trunk from inside the car.
The LS is the unquestioned cream of the crop for reliability. Few other models rate better, as we well know. However, the E is "recommended" by Consumer Reports, JD Power and Edmunds.
Last edited by Johnny Rad; Nov 30, 2014 at 08:07 PM.
Tell me about size too, the E class sedans I've been in a smaller than my LS L a 2014 vintage. I believe the trunk on LS is 18 CF where the S class MB is around 16 CF and I assume the E class is not larger?
Reliability is the 600 pound gorilla to me that makes their no contest between MB products and the LS
Last edited by Johnhw2; Nov 30, 2014 at 09:00 PM.
The trunk on the E is bigger than the '02 GS, but I suspect the "one full size larger" LS dwarfs them both. I'll bet Emunds covers it, but go big if you need loads of room.
The gorilla? The LS might be the pinnacle of reliability, but the E is recommended by multiple sources. You don't even have to squint at their three separate conclusions to see they concur. If one is great and the other is good enough, what's the diff? I honestly don't know, but at some point good enough is truly good enough and no more is required.
Last edited by Johnny Rad; Nov 30, 2014 at 10:24 PM.
The trunk on the E is bigger than the '02 GS, but I suspect the "one full size larger" LS dwarfs them both. I'll bet Emunds covers it, but go big if you need loads of room.
The gorilla? The LS might be the pinnacle of reliability, but the E is recommended by multiple sources. You don't even have to squint at their three separate conclusions to see they concur. If one is great and the other is good enough, what's the diff? I honestly don't know, but at some point good enough is truly good enough and no more is required.








