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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 02:23 PM
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Any Idea what 416rwhp equates to the crank?
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by LexISguy
Any Idea what 416rwhp equates to the crank?
For the ISF, probably 475-480 crank hp.
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by hblexus07
That is done quite a bit in the corvette world. Increase the WHP with the headers and maintain a fairly quiet exhaust note.
Well who cares about that world... :P

JP, I used to own an 01 z06 with headers and mild cam (basically just an 02' cam, since they were a little more aggressive than the 01's) and can attest to quite a few people doing just headers, but then again the z06's came with a ti-exhaust stock, so who knows...
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 04:11 PM
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480 hp range at the crank sounds about right. You usually loose around 15% to the wheels with a RWD car. Port and polish the intake and throttle body should take it close if not over the 500 hp at the crank. If we could tune the ECU this would also help maximize the hp potential of all these mods.
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by hblexus07
That is done quite a bit in the corvette world. Increase the WHP with the headers and maintain a fairly quiet exhaust note.



Not sure about the required back pressure but again in the vettes on a LS2 1 3/4" headers made more horsepower and torque than did the 1 7/8". The greatest loss was torque in the midrange (under the curve) where dyno test would show nearly 30 LB FT difference at the wheels. That was on a LS2 with bolt ons only, if we went with FI or heads/Cam then the 1 7/8" was the way to go.
Back pressure? Not again...bigger tubes present MORE pressure, not less. That's why you lose mid-range with bigger tubes.
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 08:48 PM
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Why is crank HP so important to you? I see you asking the same question in every single thread that talks about HP.


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Any Idea what 416rwhp equates to the crank?
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by lobuxracer
Back pressure? Not again...bigger tubes present MORE pressure, not less. That's why you lose mid-range with bigger tubes.
As I said, I was not sure about anything to do with "back pressure". We just tested headers with two different primary diameters on a LS2, and found the greatest gains on the NA engine to be the 1 3/4" vs the 1 7/8".

Some additional information on header design and exhaust theory.

http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/Miscella...austtheory.htm
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Juanca
Why is crank HP so important to you? I see you asking the same question in every single thread that talks about HP.
I ask because I am curious what mods would give the IS-F 500hp. I know horsepower to the wheels is what really matters.
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^^ Best bet would be an LFA n/a motor....

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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 12:06 PM
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when will the headers be for sale? and anyone no how they installed the headers without removing the motor?
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 12:10 PM
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elite is the ones who installed them with out pulling the motor. They supported it from the top and dropped the subframe.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Splat
elite is the ones who installed them with out pulling the motor. They supported it from the top and dropped the subframe.
cool, thanks splat!
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 12:19 PM
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You usually loose around 15% to the wheels...
very optimistic... remember: the loss curve is not linear



Best bet would be an LFA n/a motor....
maybe or maybe not! LFA put only 430 WHP and 280 WT...
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by powmax
very optimistic... remember: the loss curve is not linear

maybe or maybe not! LFA put only 430 WHP and 280 WT...
From what ive seen, 15-17% is a reasonable estimation. Also, remember that the isf and lfa have very different transmissions.
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Splat
elite is the ones who installed them with out pulling the motor. They supported it from the top and dropped the subframe.
Elite isn't the only one. Sikky did the same thing with their headers. Follow the link on LexusF.com for all information about the sikky headers. Sikky is not a sponsor on clublexus.
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