Price comparison.
$160,000 Tesla competes with what at that price point? Obviously you think the car is way too expensive but as you know pricing is relative.

 

I guess then you have to compare with a $240k Taycan Turbo S? Nothing really competes with the Plaid as its more premium sport vs. luxury sport and its much much more powerful than the Taycan Turbo S. $160k fully loaded with taxes doesn't seem too expensive for the having a toy car thats probably the fastest accelerating production daily driver ever made (at least in the quarter mile). This thing will have a 150k mile powertrain warranty (as standard on all Model S). Again, a toy for the rich thats a relative bargain compared to other supercars.

 

I think one point that was missed (and I have brought up this issue more then once) is that a good part of Tesla's money-drain can be traced to the fact that they refuse to operate with privately-owned dealerships. They insist on company-owned-operated facilities for showrooms, service-departments, body-shops......everything. With that company-owned kingdom, of course, comes all of the costs and overhead...it is not absorbed by independent dealerships, like with most other automakers.

 

How much money as a percentage could Tesla save by using the dealership model? Also if dealerships make money why is Tesla according to you losing money doing it in house?

 

There is private investment money to be made in a dealer.Mercedes is selling 25 of their own private dealers for $1.2 billion.

 

Tesla has no chance against Porsche

 

What a silly comment, especially with no context. no chance against Porsche in what dimension? range? price? sales? speed?

 

Charging 6 figures for their cars.

 

Yep. I'm not EV person but I'd sure as hell choose a Porsche over a Tesla if I were spending that kind of money.

 

Okay...but all those wonderful P100Ds or Model X you see everywhere all cost north of $100k so it is what it is. This version, which humiliates the Taycan in speed, is about roughly $10-20k more so not really worried about demand. But we'll see who is right.

 

But is not all about speed.

 

Jill, have you seen the pics of all the undelivered new Model S at the factory? There are literally hundreds of them just waiting to be sent out.

The Model S Plaid is a relative bargain, and there are a lot of people with both the means and the inclination to acquire one of these.

 

Speed is a big factor in buying a car like the Plaid. Same as the M series and the AMG. Why get a Turbo S vs. a regular Taycan 4S when the only differentiation is speed...because its highly important to its core buying group. My point is that the Plaid will have no issues selling a boatload (or parking load in this case) of cars to those that are interested in having a fast car that will outrun most supercars.

 

They will sell some, then sales will tank. The S is played out. It’s an old chassis. Mercedes and Porsche have a more compelling product at 6 figures+

 

I think what she means is that a Model S priced at 6 figures will not sell at all and will be a total flop and failure in terms of sales.