They teased us with a very nice looking sedan concept only to make it look like a stretched older civic/large Prius. The interior no longer looks luxurious or like a Mercedes, it looks like something you would think they put on the next Prius or up end Prius. Very disappointing.

 

Exactly. The concept was stunning.

 

respectfully, you didn't get the CURRENT more streamlined gen s-class because you liked the older more 'traditional' one you got instead. not that there's anything wrong with that. just like i bought a sports car with a honking great v8 instead of a (faster) tesla.

disagree 100%. mercedes is an innovator and must JUMP out front with what they see as the future, not just an EV version of a current platform. down the road they will be handsomely rewarded as they kill off production of the ICE cars quickly.

EV design liberates the designers because they don't have this gigantic heavy fossil engine to put somewhere. therefore, it makes almost NO SENSE (other than dev cost savings) to make an EV off an ICE platform and vice versa.

many don't because gas is still relatively cheap in the u.s.

i think you're going to have to revise your definition of "cars". oh and hyundai/kia is also making EVs that look like traditional cars.

 

i think this EQS is going to make a BOLD statement when it's fully revealed. the lighting, the silence, the space, the smarts/tech. i think the world will go 'wow'. many won't want it, wanting to stick with more of what they know, to be sure, which is why it makes PERFECT SENSE if this is not the new s-class (yet).
but again, we're only a few years away from many countries banning the sale of ICE vehicles.

 

Thats not entirely true. The W223 S Class wasn't available, and still isn't. Even if it were, the savings I got on the W222 wouldn't have been possible on a W223 and I wouldn't have paid the $1,700-$1,800 a month to lease a W223 those cars will command for a while. I prefer the interior layout of my W222 for sure, but if they made an EV W223 S Class and I were in the market I would certainly seriously consider that car.

 

But they already put a ton of money into developing a brand new S-Class with an ICE. If Mercedes truly wanted to bet on EV's, then turn the S-Class into a pure EV and nothing else. That's what Jaguar did with the XJ before their new CEO canned the car near completion.

The reputation of the S-Class has been time and again the pinnacle of Mercedes tech. Why would they shoot themselves in the foot by making an S-Class that no longer lives up to that image? You can't even get a hyperscreen in the new S-Class.

Instead what we have now are two cars from the same brand that compete against each other for what are essentially the same customers, and thus cannibalize each other in typical Mercedes fashion. The mistake Mercedes is making is betting on EV's as a status symbol and hoping that EV buyers and ICE buyers aren't one and the same.

 

Neither the S class or the EQS is even on sale yet. How can anyone know it is mistake?

 

We have seen a lot about the EQS. I'm not saying its a mistake, its just not a replacement for an EV S Class for mainstream buyers. Might the EQS stop people from leaving MB and going to Tesla? Sure. There are many S Class buyers though who have no interest in a Tesla for many reasons.

 

‘I don’t think it will be a replacement for the S class. Maybe that is why it is different. I definitely think it will be a conquest Tesla EV model. Just way to early to know. Apparently the EQS will not be as profitable as an S class but it will make profit from day 1

Interesting there are frameless doors. Smoothest car ever by one reviewer. Hot stone massage. 4 wheel steering.

 

Totally agree with this, and would only add that perceptions will shift with time. What is a "normal" car today, is based on decades of design which had no other choice than to consider a large engine, some air intakes, and other bits which round out the ICE package. I certainly think there are better looking EVs than others, but ultimately, I'm not surprised to see form following function so aggressively, here. If the numbers are correct, this is a good bit more slippery than the current S class, which will make a pretty big statement about MB's commitment to the segment. It may not be for everyone, but in the car world, it's not uncommon to attract new buyers, as you shed others.

Initial impressions look promising, so I'm looking forward to a full reveal and MB's vision of what separates a luxury EV from others.

 

The point is though, they are saying they are going to be all EV. If thats the case then they do need an EV replacement for the S Class, this isnt it though.

The reviewer that said smoothest car ever isnt a car reviewer, hes a Tesla YouTuber (among other things), and certainly compared to a Tesla I would imagine it is. Every Mercedes pretty much has a hot stone massage.

 

They all say that. Hybrid and gas will be still be
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Why do you want an EV S class so bad? What so wrong with a big V8 turbo like the S580?

 

Mercedes is saying they aren't developing any more ICE powertrains.

 

Did the really say that? Or no non-hybrid ICE motors. I don’t think would be able to do that as they sell so many cars worldwide.

 

They said they were not developing any more gas powertrains after the current slate of powertrains they have on the schedule are out. Now, thats still a long way off.