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Old Feb 10, 2021 | 07:41 AM
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More camo shots:

https://www.motor1.com/news/486994/2...less-camo-spy/

After seeing the E-Tron GT, this doesn't impress at all. If anything, it looks like a bigger version of a decade-old Sonata.
nice cheap shot, but the mercedes is obviously way more sleek, lower hood, etc.

as is obvious, EVs (and all cars) are all about aerodynamic efficiency, and that EQS shape looks very slippery. i think it will be awesome when released.

yes, basic shapes are similar across all brands these days, but there's still countless details in lighting, trim, curves/recesses, wheels, glass, and of course, the interior.
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Old Feb 10, 2021 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
nice cheap shot, but the mercedes is obviously way more sleek, lower hood, etc.

as is obvious, EVs (and all cars) are all about aerodynamic efficiency, and that EQS shape looks very slippery. i think it will be awesome when released.

yes, basic shapes are similar across all brands these days, but there's still countless details in lighting, trim, curves/recesses, wheels, glass, and of course, the interior.
The rooflines and side profile are almost identical, as well as the massive front overhang and stubby rear end. Both even possess the same tiny windows. The only major difference is that the wheelbase is longer. Otherwise, it has proportions befitting a bulbous FWD compact or midsize sedan, not a flagship EV.

I understand the compromises in the shape were done for the primary sake of enhancing cabin space to flagship levels, which is something that the Model S/Taycan/E-Tron don't possess. But there are certainly prettier ways to go about it then this egg-shaped FWD thing.
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Old Feb 10, 2021 | 08:14 AM
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Exciting times ahead for the EV landscape! Definitely looking forward to the "S-class" of EV's!!! It looks very promising so far.

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Elon stated they are only refreshing the Model S in the coming years, so GL with that Tesla.. Meanwhile the Europeans are coming. Very curious to see what the Jaguar XJ becomes.
Part of the challenge with Tesla at this stage in their "lifecycle" is that they need to focus all their available resources/time on making cars that they can sell a lot more of - Model 3 and Model Y and a rumoured upcoming smaller car than the 3 in China so that they can become a viable long term mainstream auto manufacturer. Hence why they are not/cannot do too much with the S and X for now in terms of a grounds up refresh.

On the plus side however, they still have a leg up on the competition when it comes to taking trips. That advantage will also erode in the coming years with the proliferation of companies like ElectrifyAmerica etc.

Even when other manufacturers have all the important tick boxes checked, I still think that Tesla will not focus on the S and X for some time, as they have a few other "teething" challenges to resolve - hit and miss service experience, body assembly quality control - these will become even more important as the competition catches up on the EV magic bullet - the combination of drivetrain/motor efficiency/battery range that Tesla is leading now.

I'm so happy to be alive and healthy in this day and age of EV's!!!!
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Old Feb 10, 2021 | 08:27 AM
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I love that tiny little snout.
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Old Feb 10, 2021 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Hameed
Exciting times ahead for the EV landscape! Definitely looking forward to the "S-class" of EV's!!! It looks very promising so far.

Part of the challenge with Tesla at this stage in their "lifecycle" is that they need to focus all their available resources/time on making cars that they can sell a lot more of - Model 3 and Model Y and a rumoured upcoming smaller car than the 3 in China so that they can become a viable long term mainstream auto manufacturer. Hence why they are not/cannot do too much with the S and X for now in terms of a grounds up refresh.

On the plus side however, they still have a leg up on the competition when it comes to taking trips. That advantage will also erode in the coming years with the proliferation of companies like ElectrifyAmerica etc.

Even when other manufacturers have all the important tick boxes checked, I still think that Tesla will not focus on the S and X for some time, as they have a few other "teething" challenges to resolve - hit and miss service experience, body assembly quality control - these will become even more important as the competition catches up on the EV magic bullet - the combination of drivetrain/motor efficiency/battery range that Tesla is leading now.

I'm so happy to be alive and healthy in this day and age of EV's!!!!
You quoted me from July 2019. I think a lot has changed since then. My comment was in regards to the EQS / XJ EV then but here we are two years later and neither are a factor. Meanwhile the Model S is receiving a significant evolution very very soon. The S and X will still be their halo vehicles, but they're wise to focus on 3, Y, a smaller car for China/Europe, and a pickup for the masses.
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Old Feb 10, 2021 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
You quoted me from July 2019. I think a lot has changed since then. My comment was in regards to the EQS / XJ EV then but here we are two years later and neither are a factor. Meanwhile the Model S is receiving a significant evolution very very soon. The S and X will still be their halo vehicles, but they're wise to focus on 3, Y, a smaller car for China/Europe, and a pickup for the masses.
It will be interesting to see how the other manufacturers respond to the new Model S. Will they also ante up the performance or just concede that metric. I would think Porsche would need to when videos arise of the Model S annihilating the Taycan on a strip...or will Porsche not want to pass the performance of its Turbo S cars? I think Mercedes won't even play that game with the EQS...it will be just regular fast and luxurious as hell. It will more interesting to see them release a C-class type EV which i hope happens soon.
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Old Feb 10, 2021 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
You quoted me from July 2019. I think a lot has changed since then. My comment was in regards to the EQS / XJ EV then but here we are two years later and neither are a factor. Meanwhile the Model S is receiving a significant evolution very very soon. The S and X will still be their halo vehicles, but they're wise to focus on 3, Y, a smaller car for China/Europe, and a pickup for the masses.
Lol! That shows how much time I'm on here! I can't wait to see the production version of the S class EV!

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Old Feb 10, 2021 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Motorola
The rooflines and side profile are almost identical, as well as the massive front overhang and stubby rear end. Both even possess the same tiny windows. The only major difference is that the wheelbase is longer. Otherwise, it has proportions befitting a bulbous FWD compact or midsize sedan, not a flagship EV.

I understand the compromises in the shape were done for the primary sake of enhancing cabin space to flagship levels, which is something that the Model S/Taycan/E-Tron don't possess. But there are certainly prettier ways to go about it then this egg-shaped FWD thing.
Nobody knows if the camo car is even a Mercedes...how do you know that it might not be a Hyundai in Disguise?
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Old Feb 10, 2021 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Nobody knows if the camo car is even a Mercedes...how do you know that it might not be a Hyundai in Disguise?


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Old Feb 10, 2021 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Motorola
The MB in the video is full camo....we have no idea the red one is in fact a MB....is there a MB sourced link to confirm?

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Old Feb 12, 2021 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
The MB in the video is full camo....we have no idea the red one is in fact a MB....is there a MB sourced link to confirm?
(much back and forth deleted) please stop being obnoxious or exit the thread. the channel of the video is MERCEDES BENZ.

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Old Mar 28, 2021 | 04:05 PM
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Interior revealed with the new full-dash Hyperscreen.


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Old Mar 28, 2021 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Motorola
Interior revealed with the new full-dash Hyperscreen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80_MrAMc4mg
So watch Motorola’s video on mute and play this video’s audio in the background:
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Old Mar 28, 2021 | 08:23 PM
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I absolutely love the interior and especially that dashboard. Now, I have yet to see the exterior. Judging from the EQC, the fascia will likely differ from the gas cars, and not in a good way to me. The EQC doesn't look too bad but I still prefer the real grille and the fascia that comes with it on gas models. However, the side profile looks very elegant.
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Old Mar 28, 2021 | 08:56 PM
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im not sure what the point is for the passenger screen. Impressive that this hasn't been done before but not particularly useful. curious to see what the standard vertical screen will look like.
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