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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by mikemu30
Always in fact - I let Lexus calc the nav and then check it against Google. Other than traffic issues, the in car system is typically spot on with Google.
Why do you think my results are so different from yours?

When you say "spot on" are you referring to miles or time of arrival or both?

Also, if you trust the Lexus Navigation why do you always check it with Google Maps? Seems like a lot of hassle for no reason.

Lastly, are you saying that Google Maps does a better job of avoiding traffic?
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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 09:51 PM
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Lexus is probably not going to retro android anytime soon. Google/Waze has the superiority of a better repository of user data to navigate to the best route and reflection of the current map data, far better then any dedicated consumer gps.

Now the big things in regards to Lexus vs a phone/cP/AA is that your car will probably have better reception then most phones.and its integrated into the dashboard unlike your phone.

And of course as always outliers exist. Some places just have one route that makes sense regardless of current map data.
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Old Aug 6, 2019 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by DavidZ
Why do you think my results are so different from yours?

When you say "spot on" are you referring to miles or time of arrival or both?

Also, if you trust the Lexus Navigation why do you always check it with Google Maps? Seems like a lot of hassle for no reason.

Lastly, are you saying that Google Maps does a better job of avoiding traffic?
Referring to route - I don't worry much about time of arrival. It's no hassle at all. When your BSM lights up, do you turn your head just to double check? I do. My advice is if you don't trust the in car NAV, don't use it. Pretty simple decision.
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Old Aug 6, 2019 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mikemu30
Referring to route - I don't worry much about time of arrival. It's no hassle at all. When your BSM lights up, do you turn your head just to double check? I do. My advice is if you don't trust the in car NAV, don't use it. Pretty simple decision.
Good answer... I certainly don't fret over a 10-15 minute difference in arrival times according to which route is offered. One additional point is that viewing a small phone display map vs. a
much larger Lexus map display using an Android phone is a safety issue. I would also guess that the audio portion is better as well. To be completely forthcoming here, I usually print out Map Quest directions on paper or use my Garmin which I find very accurate and is always up to date with roads and traffic congestion.
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Old Aug 6, 2019 | 08:59 AM
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Good answer... I certainly don't fret over a 10-15 minute difference in arrival times according to which route is offered. One additional point is that viewing a small phone display map vs. a
much larger Lexus map display using an Android phone is a safety issue. I would also guess that the audio portion is better as well. To be completely forthcoming here, I usually print out Map Quest directions on paper or use my Garmin which I find very accurate and is always up to date with roads and traffic congestion.
Agreed - double checks work well. But there's no match for the large display Lexus gives us.
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Old Aug 6, 2019 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mikemu30
Agreed - double checks work well. But there's no match for the large display Lexus gives us.
That's right. You want it on the Center Display.

I'm optimistic that Lexus will significantly improve the Navigation going forward now that it's cloud-based and updates don't require any hardware or even a dealer visit. The Dynamic Navigation appears to be relatively new. Lexus says that my new car comes with a 3-year trial subscription for Dynamic Navigation. When I asked the folks at the Lexus 800 number what the subscription fee will be when the 3 years are up, they said that they haven't decided yet.
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Old Aug 6, 2019 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DavidZ
That's right. You want it on the Center Display.

I'm optimistic that Lexus will significantly improve the Navigation going forward now that it's cloud-based and updates don't require any hardware or even a dealer visit. The Dynamic Navigation appears to be relatively new. Lexus says that my new car comes with a 3-year trial subscription for Dynamic Navigation. When I asked the folks at the Lexus 800 number what the subscription fee will be when the 3 years are up, they said that they haven't decided yet.
I've already seen the Dynamic Navigation priced at $8/month or $80/year. The same price as the remote start.
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Old Aug 6, 2019 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DavidZ
Lastly, are you saying that Google Maps does a better job of avoiding traffic?
GMaps and Waze is WAY better at avoiding traffic. Period.

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It's possible that you are not aware that you are travelling longer routes than necessary. Have you ever run the Lexus Navigation in parallel with Google Maps or Waze to compare as I did?
Yes.

Saturday night I put my home in, which is 25 mins north of Dallas, and Lexus nav took me from my location in downtown Ft Worth all the way East to downtown Dallas and then north 25 mins to Collin County. There's multiple northeastern routes that are almost as the crow flies on expressways that have been there for a decade or more. Lexus nav took me on what looks like a backwards L shaped route to get home. GMaps and Waze, with traffic considerations, had a 15+ min faster route. Not the first time this has happened.

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You must use nav very often to be willing to make a move to Crapple.
I rarely go anywhere in DFW area without checking the traffic on the route. Our traffic is measures more insane than it was even 10 years ago. One wreck going from Collin County into Dallas can tie you up on a freeway for 45 mins extra.

I would just use the cheap air vent holders from Amazon or TJ Maxx but the ES only has one horizontal air vent slat and it doesn't hold the friction mount holders well at all.

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Good answer... I certainly don't fret over a 10-15 minute difference in arrival times according to which route is offered. One additional point is that viewing a small phone display map vs. a
much larger Lexus map display using an Android phone is a safety issue. I would also guess that the audio portion is better as well. To be completely forthcoming here, I usually print out Map Quest directions on paper or use my Garmin which I find very accurate and is always up to date with roads and traffic congestion.
I left Microsoft Streets and Trips and Maquest in the past when my Blackberry got Google Maps in the early 2000's.

And time is finite, 15 mins matters. I'd rather use that time with my family, my friends, my work, etc... Not staring at brake lights in my car.
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Old Aug 6, 2019 | 05:05 PM
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WAZE is great for rerouting in traffic jams no doubt. The only time i use my phone for NAV honestly.
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Old Aug 7, 2019 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jimv1983
I've already seen the Dynamic Navigation priced at $8/month or $80/year. The same price as the remote start.
Where did you see that?

When I log on to the Lexus website, it shows 4 trial subscriptions, but only offers me to renew 3 of them. Dynamic Navigation is conspicuously missing.


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Old Aug 11, 2019 | 01:20 PM
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I have been putting my Android phone in a cradle clipped to the A/C vent, but it would be nice to get Google Maps on the center display. Another issue I have with my Android phone is that it's running Android 6 and can't be upgraded to Android 7. The Lexus Enform Remote app requires Android 7.

So having never owned an Apple product before, I went and ordered a refurbished iPhone 6S 64GB on Amazon for $180. I figure it'll be fun to play with. I plan to try it out on the ATT $2 Daily plan, which costs $100/yr. It'll allow me to get Google Maps on the Center Display, use the Lexus Enform Remote app, and try out a trial subscription of Tidal HD music service.
I got my $180 refurbished iPhone 6S on Friday. The phone is like new. The battery is 92% of a new battery, which is better than I expected. It came with a new lightening cable. Also, it came with a free 3-month trial for Mint Mobile, which I didn't expect at all.

I set it up yesterday and tried it out today. Works like a charm. Nice to get Google Maps on the Center Display. I'm an even happier camper.
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Old Aug 12, 2019 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by DavidZ
I got my $180 refurbished iPhone 6S on Friday. The phone is like new. The battery is 92% of a new battery, which is better than I expected. It came with a new lightening cable. Also, it came with a free 3-month trial for Mint Mobile, which I didn't expect at all.

I set it up yesterday and tried it out today. Works like a charm. Nice to get Google Maps on the Center Display. I'm an even happier camper.
Wow, only $180 that's a great deal. Welcome to the Apple community, my first iPhone was the 3G over 10 years ago and I'm planning on getting the iPhone 11 next month.
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Old Aug 13, 2019 | 06:05 AM
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I noticed they allowed those who had older models to bring in their vehicles to be upgraded when CarPlay rolled out. I am hoping they will do the same for the Android Auto.I saw an article that stated they plan to do this in Australia, so they makes me even more hopeful. I just got the 2019 Lexus UX, and I also bought an older iPhone just to use for longer drives, but I would rather have Android Auto.
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Old Aug 13, 2019 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by kalel2127
Wow, only $180 that's a great deal.
I thought so. Particularly since I can't find a scratch on it! And it came with everything I need plus a 3-month free cell service trial.

The 16 GB iPhone 6S was $142, but I figured the extra $38 for the added storage space was worth it since you can't upgrade them. The 6S is more than adequate for my purposes. It allows me to do CarPlay, the Lexus Remote app, and try out Tidal high quality music service. Three birds with one $180 stone!
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Old Aug 13, 2019 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DavidZ
Where did you see that?

When I log on to the Lexus website, it shows 4 trial subscriptions, but only offers me to renew 3 of them. Dynamic Navigation is conspicuously missing.


I don't remember. Either when I registered my account or some paperwork somewhere.
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