Navigator is in the test with the Lexus 600

 

We'll have to disagree on the mechanical part- that was actually one of the stronger points. And like I said, much of the poorly fit/easy to break interior pieces, window regulators, etc. were addressed later on. From what I understand, it wasn't the independent suspension itself that bothered the Jeep engineers but rather the lack of suspension travel and hardiness. Their torture tests would blow the shocks and other components on the ML which resulted in some running changes. I've actually been thinking of picking up one that my neighbor is about to part with as a beater car for a vacation home.

The current gen GC is indeed not built on the current GLE platform, but the WK2 and previous ML/GLE started from the same foundation. They diverged very early in development.

 

Yep, it placed third just one point behind the Wagoneer. Interesting they liked the Escalade by a large degree compared to the others.

 

Doesn't surprise me, the new Escalade is an excellent product.

 

100%. I like the Escalade. Still has a V8 which is great too. Although I like the size of the LX, for most American consumers, the size doesn’t fit. The technology in the Cadillac is far superior as well. It also gets, “the over the top”part correct versus the cost of purchase. Astonishingly the 4R comes with retractable running boards, but not the LX

 

I saw the new Grand Wagoneer on the road yesterday, in black. It is very weird looking from the rear, as if Range Rover tried to build a hearse, lol.

 

Yeah, I agree. They are weird looking IMO, especially from the rear. Extremely nice vehicle though

 

Yeah Escalade is nice. First I thought it looked odd compared to the old one but after a while it looks really nice and mean esp in Black. I wonder why X7, GLS, Range Rover are not here. If I bought one of these full size, I would definitely go with Escalade. I don't have interest in Navigator and Grand Wagoneer. After knowing more about LX, it's no longer an interest.

 

They're not BOF.

 

LX570 placed #2 in the past. Motor Trend I think it was. Many non body on frames where in it. I do think the test in this months Car and Driver was accurate by comparing all body on frame

 

I find them to be hideous.

 

I think it was simply the test they wanted to do, testing luxury BOF SUVs.

 

So standard Lexus? Sorry but I couldn't help it lol!

 

The economy must be really overheated with a LOT of extra money going around as I have never seen this:

 

What about this one? Spanking shiny... I had to pull out my phone to snap a shot but it already took off.