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Old Oct 9, 2023 | 11:17 AM
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And as you guys can see, actually I was on pebbles/rocks.

I was impressed with the all season Michelins. I just took it slow. The owner/my relative just bought a new Gladiator with actual off road tires and is driving down there with me next time haha.

Love it!!!
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Oh the 6.4 and 6.0s suck stock, you need to modify them so they don't break lol

Funny enough the rolling coal means the car isn't tuned correctly, properly tuned diesels don't smoke

The 6.0's can be made reliable with a lot of mods.

There is no saving the 6.4. Pistons crack, rocker arms break. It's a 100k mile engine and then throw it away. It was a cynical attempt by Navistar to do the bare minimum to fulfill the rest of their contract with Ford, knowing that Ford was already developing the 6.7 in house.



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Originally Posted by BrettJacks
The 6.0's can be made reliable with a lot of mods.

There is no saving the 6.4. Pistons crack, rocker arms break. It's a 100k mile engine and then throw it away. It was a cynical attempt by Navistar to do the bare minimum to fulfill the rest of their contract with Ford, knowing that Ford was already developing the 6.7 in house.
Oh you can fix a 6.4.....

Fire ring the heads and block
Replace the pistons/rods
Replace the rockers and pushrods with aftermarket
Replace the factory oil separator system with a multi stage unit from MANN
Replace the turbos
Remove EGR/DPF
Have the crank fully blueprinted and coated
Have the block resurfaced with a TQ plate and refinished
Replace the head bolts with ARP studs
Replace the factory sealing strategy entirely with the fire ring setup
And anything else I'm forgetting....

Just a "small list of things" and you have a 6.4 that actually works lol! He is currently doing another one for a customer, I think it's the 4th one he's done at this point. They do work after that though, should have been that way factory though. The 6.7 is far better and requires much less past deletes to work correctly
Old Oct 9, 2023 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BrettJacks
The 6.0's can be made reliable with a lot of mods.

There is no saving the 6.4. Pistons crack, rocker arms break. It's a 100k mile engine and then throw it away. It was a cynical attempt by Navistar to do the bare minimum to fulfill the rest of their contract with Ford, knowing that Ford was already developing the 6.7 in house.
That is really sad.

The Dodge Cummins Turbo diesel was a hit and the old Ford Powerstrokes were good too.

Not 100k mile throw aways. Lol

Originally Posted by Striker223
Oh you can fix a 6.4.....

Fire ring the heads and block
Replace the pistons/rods
Replace the rockers and pushrods with aftermarket
Replace the factory oil separator system with a multi stage unit from MANN
Replace the turbos
Remove EGR/DPF
Have the crank fully blueprinted and coated
Have the block resurfaced with a TQ plate and refinished
Replace the head bolts with ARP studs
Replace the factory sealing strategy entirely with the fire ring setup
And anything else I'm forgetting....

Just a "small list of things" and you have a 6.4 that actually works lol!
Wow, one hell of a list that best not be attempted by a rookie. Lol

That's serious stuff.

But, he's getting big power out of it.
The cost and time, good golly. Lol
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Slight OT, but thread and the regular posters in car chat are great reads. I’ve learned a lot.

For real working on cars stuff, I admit I am better at writing checks than wrenching.
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Originally Posted by link13
Slight OT, but thread and the regular posters in car chat are great reads. I’ve learned a lot.

For real working on cars stuff, I admit I am better at writing checks than wrenching.
I can't do ANYTHING. You're not alone. Partly just because I'm not good at it and I have no patience because I can be really A.D.D. sometimes.
Old Oct 10, 2023 | 07:56 AM
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I can do basic stuff, but I just don’t have the time or energy. If I wanted to change oil etc I certainly could.
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I don't even like changing air filters, I'm one of those "bull in a china shop" type of people. I'd get impatient and snap the thingy.
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Originally Posted by Margate330
That is really sad.

The Dodge Cummins Turbo diesel was a hit and the old Ford Powerstrokes were good too.

Not 100k mile throw aways. Lol



Wow, one hell of a list that best not be attempted by a rookie. Lol

That's serious stuff.

But, he's getting big power out of it.
The cost and time, good golly. Lol
Yeah it's a lot. I have pictures somewhere....I'll find them and post them
Old Oct 10, 2023 | 11:17 AM
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I think everyone is gonna have red car syndrome now
Old Oct 10, 2023 | 01:11 PM
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That Soul Red is nice!
Old Oct 10, 2023 | 01:12 PM
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I think Mazda has the best looking metallic red. Love the way it looks on their CX-5 also.
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Originally Posted by AJT123
I don't even like changing air filters, I'm one of those "bull in a china shop" type of people. I'd get impatient and snap the thingy.
that's funny. on every car i've done it, it's 5 minutes or less. even i can do it.
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i'm still adjusting to the thought i won't ever take my new car to a gas station or change the oil, etc.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I can do basic stuff, but I just don’t have the time or energy. If I wanted to change oil etc I certainly could.
My Dad and my brother taught me to do basic stuff. I did my own oil changes for a while until I was close to 40. I got tired of the floor jack, jack stands, and crawling under the car to pull the oil plug. If I get a flat, I can deal with it. I just don’t want to.



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