Thats fair, I do tend to really drive hard or basically idle around. I did after all buy the powerful engines so I intend to use them lol! I usually catch them off boost when I'm NOT pushing the car hard.

That's what angers me with the 4.0, it doesn't do super relaxed well since the boost threshold is still a thing and when boost does engage at low demand it "bumps" and you have to really modulate to make it feel like a perfectly uniform swell. If I'm demanding power that's different and the car absolutely wants to be driven that way, the W12 is happy to do both. That's why I like it so much since it's the most seamless engine I've ever driven, think driving a 4cyl your whole life then driving your first 8.....that's what it makes V8s feel like

 

Yeah and the M550i utterly outperforms and gives you a feeling of dominance the GSG simply doesn't. It's also more confident when really pushing the car due to AWD and is on an entirely different level, the GSF feels boring by comparison.

I tried a GSF before I bought my first A8 and while a nice car and very balanced ultimately it didn't get my adrenaline up like the Germans nor did it make me feel like the king of the road.

 

Buy a V10 for sound....the LC does sound great but I'm really doubting you have ever owned half the stuff you claim to. Your opinions read like someone who "has owned everything" but in reality maybe has an IS350 or something around that tier and insists it's the best. I just can't believe without proof that you actually think an RX is better than a Porsche

 

That’s at least the second time you’ve accused me of lying about cars. Not acceptable. All the cars I’ve talked about have been owned by my household and I was the primary driver. Some in my name some in another relative that lives with me. If you don’t like my opinion, fine. But stop accusing me of lying. I can prove it if needed, but why should I prove anything to you? Also I never said a RX is better than a Porsche. In some ways the Porsche is better. In some ways the RX is better. It depends on what you are looking for.

 

As i consider picking up a RWD mid-size luxury sedan, one thing that keeps pulling me to the 540i over a GS(I'm shopping used), is the fact that the bimmer has a turbo charged I6, vs the GS using an NA V6. I probably need to go drive one, as I haven't driven anything with the 2GR-FKS, but I've heard a lot of complaints from Tacoma owners that the engine is anemic as all hell below 4,000 RPM, especially from those who owned the 4.0 in prior Tacos.

 

The BMW I6 and 8 speed ZF trans is a great combination. It can even get decent fuel mileage to go with the performance.

 

Then prove it, you have repeatedly insisted that the mid tier Lexus products are something to write home about when that makes zero sense if you afford better as you claim. If you really can't discern the difference then yeah, I guess the nicer stuff is not worth it to you.

 

Don't drive the BMW first if you want the GS to have any chance of winning you over lol!

 

the lc500 in particular has a sound pipe with valve to pump extra intake noise directly into the cabin when the rpms get up high. that completely overwhelms engine sound. i took mine out because it was too loud.

but you're right, a turbo v6/v8 will definitely sound different, maybe it's more of a 'woosh' sound, but with the lc, as i said, it's exhaust and intake WAY more than engine sound, even at high rpms. at least that's my impression.

totally obnoxious accusations. not cool.

i also saw your other recent comment about how the rx and es are 'outclassed'. now if you compare an rx to a cayenne, then sure, but a cayenne cost 1.5 to 2x as much, so hardly surprising it's 'more'.
but what exactly do you compare an es or rx to for equal money? lexus has always looked for market gaps (smart!). the es and rx clearly appeal to people who don't care much about driving crazy fast like you do. they value refinement, value, reliability, comfort. on those things the es and rx excel.

 

Do you want everyone here to prove what they the have had and driven here to you that you disagree with? You willing to bet that I haven’t had those vehicles in my garage I have said? If not then stop personally attacking me on my opinions regarding Lexus.

 

Striker, knock off the rude personal commentary or you will be asked to exit this thread.

 

Hi friends, happy Monday!

The weekend was not long enough and was over in a blink of an eye, ugh.

Back to grinding! 🚀 🪂

Anyone see something fun car related, please post it up!

 

all this truck needs is a flag ….

 

But that's the thing. Does the job. Nothing to brag about. Looking at its numbers (mpg and performance) and compared to the new one, which one does a better job?

Bit is actually right

 

I have no idea which one does a better job, all I can say, is downsizing from a 6 to 4 is a terrible thing to do. Especially if you’re using or used to V6 engines for a long time. There is nothing to convince me, that a four-cylinder is superior to a V6. Four cylinders are noisy, and they vibrate, and an RX is supposed to be a luxury crossover