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Old Jan 2, 2022 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Just as a followup, the EQS580 I sat in with the $50,000 markup is sold.
Now that's a market adjustment, damn.
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Old Jan 2, 2022 | 04:57 PM
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Now that's a market adjustment, damn.
Yeah, seriously. I noticed all the S Classes had $10-15k markups too. Just rolled through the lot this afternoon the dealer was closed, I will email my guy tomorrow and ask if they got that markup (I bet they did)
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Old Jan 2, 2022 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Just as a followup, the EQS580 I sat in with the $50,000 markup is sold.
Did it sell for the full-50K-mark-up? (Or don't you know?)

If so, then, IMO, P.T. Barnum was probably right.
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Old Jan 2, 2022 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Did it sell for the full-50K-mark-up? (Or don't you know?)

If so, then, IMO, P.T. Barnum was probably right.
Dont know, my guy will tell me.
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Old Jan 2, 2022 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Dont know, my guy will tell me.
That's the problem with the traditional dealership model, markups. It looks like a lot of Ford dealerships are going to be putting a $30k markup on F-150 Lightnings. And don't think that's going away. One thing EV startups are bringing to the table... direct internet sales. No middle man taking a huge cut. You see the price up front, everything there before you submit your order

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Old Jan 2, 2022 | 06:02 PM
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Yeah, and this situation with markups makes ordering a car online with no BS pretty attractive
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Old Jan 2, 2022 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Yeah, and this situation with markups makes ordering a car online with no BS pretty attractive
I Have a friend who worked for several dealerships in SoCal, and I've seen invoice price as well as all the factory rebates they get, and it's pretty criminal the markups. I believe in capitalism, making money etc, but not in fleecing people. Direct sales will benefit buyers of differing incomes by cutting out the extra fat...IE the dealership
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Old Jan 2, 2022 | 07:32 PM
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Almost any inventory that is on dealer lot will have a markup.

If you order EQS and can wait a few months, you will get if for MSRP. Plenty of MB dealers that don’t do ADM crap.
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Old Jan 2, 2022 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
Almost any inventory that is on dealer lot will have a markup.

If you order EQS and can wait a few months, you will get if for MSRP. Plenty of MB dealers that don’t do ADM crap.
Go to MBWorld, that isn’t the case for the EQS or other dealers. Nobody can find a dealer that will do an EQS580 order for MSRP, 450s sure.
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Old Jan 3, 2022 | 05:10 AM
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Oh out in SoCal these will sell like candy, markups and all.
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Old Jan 3, 2022 | 05:41 AM
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unlike critics and reviewers who won't buy one anyway, i guess there are buyers who don't find it ugly.
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Old Jan 3, 2022 | 05:45 AM
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Or there are buyers for whom the styling and its quirkiness aren’t a big deal to them. Those buyers would still buy it if it was more conventionally attractive.
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Old Jan 3, 2022 | 09:15 AM
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At this point I've spent plenty of time in both vehicles and can confirm much of what SW17LS points out. The W222 does have better interior materials overall than the W223 and the EQS isn't as finely detailed as the W223, although I will note the W223 definitely has hard plastic sills as well. Totally disagree on the feeling of the interior feeling closer to an E-Class if I have to be honest.

I'm not disappointed overall by the EQS interior by any stretch but the cheapening of Mercedes interiors in general at this point in time is real. It will be nice when this transition period is over and they're not splitting resources so heavily between ICE and models and EV. I'm personally happy they were able to hide the hard plastics better than some others like the Taycan.

Despite all of this, as I've said elsewhere, for me personally the EQS is the way to go but the S-class is still comfortably the quintessential executive transport mobile.
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Old Jan 3, 2022 | 11:40 AM
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The W223 does have hard plastic sills vs them being carpeted in the W222.

Have you been in a really highly spec'ed E Class?
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Old Jan 3, 2022 | 12:45 PM
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Can we get some pictures of questionable build quality on the S-Class?

I still am sort of (but then, not really) surprised that LS460 had better paint job and holds its own to a brand new S-Class in build quality.
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