Got it. The Tundra hybrid makes plenty of sense for your needs. The longest trip I would be making is from NorCal to SoCal and back, no towing for now. Trips to the mountains (Sequoia National Park/Yosemite National Park) in the summer

 

It will be interesting to see what the new Tundra's payloads turn out to be in real life. The payload on my crew max is only about 1300 lbs. This becomes and issue when I tow. I have to be careful in how I load up my trailer with supplies, as the tongue weight can easily be 800 lbs. That only leaves 500 lbs left, which is pretty exactly the four of us and the dog, meaning I cannot put anything in the bed of the truck.

The current (outgoing) Tundras rate up to about 1700 lbs in payload, but that gets eaten up by getting the crew max, the optional bigger fuel tank, and accessories like running boards, tonneau covers, etc. It's those things that bring my Tundra's payload down so low. I am hoping a new crew max could be at least 1500-1600 lbs, including accessories. That would make my towing and loading much easier.

 

If you need more than 1400lbs payload, you need an HD truck. 1/2 tons aren't meant for that.

 

WTF ? That grille is horrendous ! Give me last years model any day of the week after seeing that !
No one at Toyota or Lexus can design a grille these days? seriously. I guess that person retired or quit about 2013?
No V8 or diesel option ? Good luck with that.

 

I don't know much about trucks so I can't help you there, but my cousin who lives in Exeter (near Visalia in the California Central Valley) owns a construction company and tows equipment, as well as giant horse trailers and their personal trailer to places like Montana, and he always buys the giant RAM diesel trucks. I once asked him if he ever considered one of the Toyota trucks and he laughed

 

My new 4Runner can haul 1550lbs

Was just trying to point that an EV doesn't work for everyone...can work for some In the Ford 150s case, the battery weight eats up part of the cargo capacity

No you do not. Some F150's with a gas motor can haul 2450lbs and some at 3400lbs....

Super Crew is 2880lbs

​​​​​​​Max payload is 1950lbs The T100 from the 1990's was over 2000lbs

 

But, does your 4Runner have 563 HP and 775 ft. lbs torque and do 0-60 in 4.3 seconds? And get 85 mpg with that much power? I get EV doesn't work for everybody, but I would normally not buy a Truck, Toyota or otherwise because I wouldn't be utilizing even near it's capacity. In the case of the Lightning, there is virtually no penalty for having such a big truck, if I use the capacity or not

 

No...but my 4Runner does not weight 6500lbs And I don't need to charge it...and I have 550km range in mixed driving...takes 5 minutes to refuel

Anyways, I think the Tundra is spot on for what is.. I didn't think I would like it, but I do.

 

But see that's not really a good argument because I charge at home, so it's zero minutes for our EV. And you haven't been to the gas stations here. It's 20 minutes minimum to fill up at Costco. The other day I was in line for 30 minutes. If I ever had to visit a fast charger, it would be about 25 minutes to charge from 0 to 80 percent. So just to recap, I spend 20 to 30 minutes a week filling up gas. My wife spends 0 minutes filling up gas because every morning her car is fully charged

 

I don't want to be booted from the Tundra thread as its fun and informative. I think I respectfully disputed or provided an alternative reasoning about the 1400lb claim of an EV but I never said EV's don't work for everyone. 6500lb is way to heavy IMO for a vehicle to haul 1400lbs and one that has to charge and lacks gas or hybrid range..

Anyways, back to Tundra...I am shocked that the TRD Pro is ALL hybrid. A bit disappointed that Toyota still lack AUTO-4WD in the Tundra

 

I agree, no more F-150 talk! I washed my potty mouth all clean

 

Yes!! Fuugly truck indeed and it don't even tow as much as other makes? Why bother building one that hauls less, truly its a total waste of steel and time to do so.
They'll never surpass the big three in truck sales building lessor grade trucks like this is, sorry folks it will never happen!
Hope the next designers build a tougher working truck, clearly Toys forgot what trucks are needed for?

"Lets build one that looks more like a GM and hauls even less?" Amazing!

 

200lbs? You dont need a truck at all then, you just need a Western Flyer.....

 

No thanks....

 

Understood, but I would like to know about real life figures. Again, the max payload of the current Tundra is something like 1730 lbs, but I have never seen one in real life that is actually rated at that. Most current Tundras tend to range from 1200 to 1500 lbs. Since they are advertising about 200 lbs more of max payload, I am hoping that will mean that most configurations will come in around 1400 to 1700 lbs. But even that is lower than typical F-150s and RAM 1500s, which both max out at around 2300 lbs.