They both do succeed around here at least. They’re all over the place. Part of the reason I love my LX so much is because it’s just the absolute king daddy of Toyota trucks on a bespoke platform. So will the Tundra and Sequoyah go through the extra quality control and THREE backbreaking reliability tests that they only used to test on LC/LX? I wonder. This move does take away some of the specialness of a Land Cruiser. But they’ll all sell well and I seriously dig this Tundra.

 

Certainly! I think that Toyota will be reasonable and price it in parity to the direct competition. At least those that are like the Ecoboost line and not necessarily NA. Won't be as cheap as a Ram Classic.

As for the Sequoia, we should hear about it next month or early November. They're gonna be producing them soon at TMMTX, so they gonna need reveal.

Nope, it's a matter of timing. For whichever reason, Land Cruiser didn't debut it as planned and Tundra got to. There's nothing special for the Tundra iForce Max to be teething out in terms of kinks anymore at this point, as Lexus will get a version of this powertrain in parallel.

March 2022 launch of the IFM is hardly different than the trajectory for new LX, unless you're referring to unibody cars like the LS 500h being unimpressive. Toyota just wasn't focused on doing that for GA-L vehicles, as those were developed starting a decade ago.

And they are late to the party, being that this is something I said 5 years ago in 2016. I have said for the past 5 years, that TNGA-F will underpin ALL body on frame Toyota vehicles from Land Cruiser to Hilux.

Some people were skeptical, as it wasn't in the news, but well it's here now.

Motor Trend doesn't do Toyota justice in any of their reporting and are pathetic for barely reporting on this now, as it's old news to any Toyota/Lexus enthusiast or observer who has been paying close attention.

 

Living in New York City have no intention of owning one but it looks pretty good for a full size pickup, I'm sure many current Tundra owners will love it, is it safe to assume these two new motors will likely pave the way to being inserted into a new IS\RC in the coming years .

 

Sincerely hoping that hybrid TTV6 replaces the anemic powertrain in the LS500h.

 

The F-150 Lightning has 563 HP and 775 ft. lbs torque. 0-60 in 4.3 seconds and gets 300 miles on a charge with 1,400 lbs load, equivalent to 85 mpg. As much as I love Toyota, sorry...F-150 wins for me if they come out with it next year. That said, looks like an awesome truck. Definitely a win for Toyota truck customers

 

. Add in four 200lb persons and you are left with a very poor payload. 1400lb is awful Yet…you’ve a very heavy electric truck

 

Easy, if you have a heavy load don't take three of those 200lb. passengers with you on that trip.

 

Sure you do….trucks are for work. Let’s say you need to haul out to the country to do some work. And you have a crew.

 

Luckily, I won't ever be loading it up with 1,400 lbs! At the most, 200 lbs. It would be the same with any truck, you load it up and mileage goes down. The thing about going with the F-150 lightning is there is almost ZERO penalty for buying a huge truck with that much power. That's not true for the Tundra, or any other ICE truck

 

The Lightning is definitely a cool truck, no doubt. It wouldn't work for me because I tow, but a Tundra hybrid would be a good "in-between" for me. I will likely get one a few years down the road.

 

The F-150 has a 10K towing capacity in addition to 1,400 lbs cargo capacity. It automatically calculates the weight it carrying and will configure battery management. There is definitely a bit more planning when going on longer trips, so the hybrid does make sense for those looking to make a future move

 

A Toyota Highlander has a better payload

 

Well, you got me there! Luckily I don't need a huge payload, if I did than I would definitely look at the Highlander

 

Plenty capable towing wise for short trips, but my issue here is the range on longer road trips. While towing I doubt it'll have much more than 100 miles of range and we sometimes do 500 miles of towing in a day. That just won't work for our needs. If I didn't tow with it, then the 300 mile non-towing range would be more than sufficient.

 

Tons of people have full sized pickups and never do any work.

This truck is not designed for the consumer that you’re describing.