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Old Sep 7, 2021 | 07:12 AM
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Yep. First thing I noticed, literally, when I drove it first was how precise the throttle is. No doubt for off-roading.

Toyota 5.7 is slower than an Escalade or Navi but I promise nobody would ever think the 5.7 isn't enough for LC/LX. It has great torque, it sounds burly as any other V8 I've heard. I can't wait to see how this tows a boat.
Disagree. I drove this LX pictured below and was very unimpressed with the power (as well as the braking ability combined with extreme amounts of brake/nose dive). For nearly $100,000, it felt very slow and was an exercise in patience getting up to 60. I just watched a video review of a 21 LX and the reviewer basically mentioned the same thing about it being slow and underpowered. Getting back into my (now past) '18 GS350 F-Sport made it feel like a Tesla after driving the LX.

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Here's the review I recently watched in which the reviewer felt the LX was underpowered:

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FWIW I wouldn't want one with the 8 speed because it's just programmed for economy to go straight to top gear. 6 speed one feels perfect, is always in the right gear. Sorry you didn't like it though. But yes a GS350 is obviously faster, lol.

And with all due respect, this is not a legit reviewer. He gushes about BMW and Lexus, sporty cars and then pulls the obligatory "You won't like this if you're used to a sporty BMW or Mercedes." Well really?????

He also suggests that they turn the LX into a unibody design based off of the current LS500, which is laughable. There are car people and truck people. This guy doesn't get it.

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Old Sep 7, 2021 | 07:51 AM
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FWIW I wouldn't want one with the 8 speed because it's just programmed for economy to go straight to top gear. 6 speed one feels perfect, is always in the right gear. Sorry you didn't like it though. But yes a GS350 is obviously faster, lol.

And with all due respect, this is not a legit reviewer. He gushes about BMW and Lexus, sporty cars and then pulls the obligatory "You won't like this if you're used to a sporty BMW or Mercedes." Well really?????

He also suggests that they turn the LX into a unibody design based off of the current LS500, which is laughable. There are car people and truck people. This guy doesn't get it.
LX is quick enough. I didn’t know people wanted a sub 5 sec to 60mph acceleration times for a Lexus body on frame

381-HP - full time 4WD - heavy duty frame - big V8.

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Old Sep 7, 2021 | 07:58 AM
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LX is quick enough. I didn’t know people wanted a sub 5 sec to 60mph acceleration times

381-HP - full time 4WD - heavy duty frame - big V8.
He probably would like a fast Porsche crossover or BMW.

And different strokes, he has a GS350. We had an IS350 with that engine, yeah it was fast AF but it sounded like a vacuum cleaner when you got into the gas. LX? Grumble grumble, rumble.
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LX is quick enough. I didn’t know people wanted a sub 5 sec to 60mph acceleration times for a Lexus body on frame

381-HP - full time 4WD - heavy duty frame - big V8.
Yes, why not?
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Hopefully not too off topic, but the above made me curious about 0-60 times with the current (outgoing) LX.

Car and Driver tested a 2015 at 6.5 seconds for 0-60, with the 6 speed auto.
Car and Driver tested a 2016 and a 2018 LX, both with the 8 speed, at 7.2 seconds.

From this single data point, it does appear that the 8 speed had a fairly significant impact on 0-60 mph acceleration.

A similar thing happened with the GS350, though far less severe.

Car and Driver tested a 2013 GS350 RWD with the 6 speed and got 5.5 seconds 0-60.
Car and Driver tested a 2017 GS350 RWD with the 8 speed and got 5.8 seconds to 60.

The new LX will be interesting to watch. The turbocharged engine with more torque and horsepower than the 5.7 should be fun, but ultimately the acceleration will be impacted by the overall weight and what the transmission does to it.
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Yes, why not?
It's a 6000lb behemoth. Who in their right minds will want to race and full throttle this thing and for what? It is intended to carry families and or go offroading, maybe.

People can go get a G-Wagen if they want to go fast in a BOF for whatever reasons.
Old Sep 7, 2021 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by JDR76
Hopefully not too off topic, but the above made me curious about 0-60 times with the current (outgoing) LX.

Car and Driver tested a 2015 at 6.5 seconds for 0-60, with the 6 speed auto.
Car and Driver tested a 2016 and a 2018 LX, both with the 8 speed, at 7.2 seconds.
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I can vouch that the '13-'15 feels that fast (6.5 0-60) from butt dyno. I'd really like to race it with my LS430 off the line, they're close.

The 8 speed was just to eek out an extra mpg for ratings and in turn sucked the responsiveness out of the drivetrain. I would not turn down a '16 to new LX570 but there are reasons we got the older one like we did. The 6 speed is perfect, and tuned perfectly for it.
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Originally Posted by JDR76

The new LX will be interesting to watch. The turbocharged engine with more torque and horsepower than the 5.7 should be fun, but ultimately the acceleration will be impacted by the overall weight and what the transmission does to it.
I agree, it's not just the maximum torque that's important but how and when it's accessible. The current 5.7 is great in that it's reasonably unstressed, but it doesn't deliver peak torque until close to 4000 RPM. That's why the throttle response is what it is, it's a product of the torque curve. The turbo (if implemented well) will bring peak torque at much lower RPM - which is better for both on and off road.
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I agree, it's not just the maximum torque that's important but how and when it's accessible. The current 5.7 is great in that it's reasonably unstressed, but it doesn't deliver peak torque until close to 4000 RPM. That's why the throttle response is what it is, it's a product of the torque curve. The turbo (if implemented well) will bring peak torque at much lower RPM - which is better for both on and off road.
But it does produce 90% of peak torque at 2200 RPM. You can drive it around under 2500 RPM just fine. It is under-stressed for sure.

However I also am excited to see how this new V6tt works out, in all different kinds of ways.

Not a fan of no V8 but there's no other choice.
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But it does produce 90% of peak torque at 2200 RPM. You can drive it around under 2500 RPM just fine. It is under-stressed for sure.
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Exactly. All day long. and the peak torque is at 3600rpm
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Going by the specs of the LC 300 the new LX will be lighter. That combined with the new TTv6 it will definitely be faster 0 to 60
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Going by the specs of the LC 300 the new LX will be lighter. That combined with the new TTv6 it will definitely be faster 0 to 60
Toyota says 6.7 seconds 0-60 for the 300LC..... I expect it to be much faster, maybe 6 flat or better.

The numbers on the new engine are nothing to scoff at, even if we hate V6tt. And yes this is lighter, too, like you said.

That said, the old school 5.7 V8 is a superb, superb motor and only has one real "weakness" and that's efficiency. And that means nothing to me because I don't care about gas mileage.
Old Sep 7, 2021 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Toyota says 6.7 seconds 0-60 for the 300LC..... I expect it to be much faster, maybe 6 flat or better.

The numbers on the new engine are nothing to scoff at, even if we hate V6tt. And yes this is lighter, too, like you said.

That said, the old school 5.7 V8 is a superb, superb motor and only has one real "weakness" and that's efficiency. And that means nothing to me because I don't care about gas mileage.
I hear you. Love the v8 no doubt. The LC 300 reviews from Middle East are quite positive. I am quite impressed the styling of the recent Lexus products (refreshed IS, new NX) so hoping new LX would continue that trend. Also interested to see if there will be another more powerful engine option on the LX just the new Tundra
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Originally Posted by AJT123

That said, the old school 5.7 V8 is a superb, superb motor and only has one real "weakness" and that's efficiency. And that means nothing to me because I don't care about gas mileage.
It has lower efficiency because it has full time 4WD and omits start stop and cylinder deactivation.



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