for sure? i think patgilm is saying this NEW one is better looking that the previous one.

i agree with that, although haven't seen one in person yet.

 

For sure. The new LX is way better looking than the 2015-2021 spindle. 2 fold

 

Yup that is what I was saying, the last gen from 2016-2021 just didn’t look good to me. I like the new one much better but I also like the pre 2016 models as well.

 

doug's review is out. ton of views for less than a day.

very good, points out a lot of 'quirks and features'

most interesting point to me: he says the body on frame platform (also used in tundra and sequoia) is a negative compared to range rover, mercedes gls, bmw x7 in terms of ride comfort, etc.

 

I don't quite agree with Doug about the BOF aspect. It's not the body on frame, it's the solid rear axle that gives it a choppy ride. The Navigator and Escalade are both BOF but few have complaints with the ride quality because they both have independent rear suspension.

He nailed the rest of the review. This car is woefully outdated even though it just came out, and quite overpriced for what it is. The lack of front massage seats while the rear has them is a total "what were they thinking" moment.

 

It is a mediocre vehicle. Really needs a V8. I have always felt it was dates inside and it was huge let down when they released the interior pics. Also, it would be a better vehicle if there wasn't a silly 3rd row seat....should just be made to have two row.s. In person the styling it great.

 

nissan GTR engines are bench run for 45 minutes, 10 min at redline before delivery and the entire car is run on their racetrack. Break in is an old wives tale.

 

doug says the front row doesn't have a wireless phone charger... can that really be true on this brand new expensive suv?

edit: looks like the ultra luxury he tested has a wireless charger in the REAR seats but not in the front.

on the non-ultra lux trim levels there appears to be a wireless charging pad up front.

 

doug says the ttv6 is better in every way.

the base new lx does not have a 3rd row, and the ultra lux doesn't either.

many odd things about packages/trims though... the digital mirror is only available on the top ultra luxury trim for example.

 

The BOF design definitely hurts the ride IRS or not. If you drive a Navigator or Escalade and then say a GLS or Range Rover, the ride differences are very clear. Its why I would never buy one of these BOF luxury SUVs unless I had to tow a lot. No reason to take the tradeoff...

 

Better than the old V8, wouldn't be better than a modern TTV8. Thats a pipe dream though...

 

Lets see what some of the former owners have to say if the move on to this new LX. The performance is practically the same as the old V8 model. It has better fuel economy of course, but that is something buyers of these vehicles have never really worried about. It’s like $130K. At least Toyota left out the irritating start-stop

 

The vehicle will feel much peppier and more responsive, its not about fuel economy. The LS500 feels MUCH quicker than the LS460 even if it actually isn't 0-60.

And people do care about fuel economy even at this level, it costs me almost $100 now to fill my S Class up, and gas prices are only going to go up. Its also a matter of range, the LX570 has poor range on the highway, and this will be much better.

 

The annual cost to run a 570 vs 600 is $1200 more per year, on same miles. . It’s nothing to the buyer. These type of vehicles are for special buyers. I’d rather have the V8 and live with 344 miles of range. The real tragedy is the requirement for premium fuel. Toyota reduced the fuel tank capacity as well, the new LX600 actually gets less combined EPA range than the outgoing 570.

you probably need to put your start-stop back on.

 

LX 700 F Sport Performance, anyone?

These model numbers are getting out of hand...