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Old Jan 3, 2022 | 12:55 PM
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I looked at one today. Fortunately, it was inside, so a welcome relief from 28 degrees outside. It was a lightly optioned XLT (the mid-level trim) hybrid with an MSRP of about $25,000.

The driver seat was a bit small for my big butt and my right knee came into contact with the center section of the dash, so it would be a no go for 6-4 me. Perhaps one with a power seat would be better. Overall, it seemed a good, perhaps great, value at MSRP.

However, it was marked up by $10,000. When I laughed at that number, the salesman assured me that he'd have no trouble getting that price and that, in fact, a customer was coming from 150 miles away today for it.

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Old Jan 3, 2022 | 01:37 PM
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$10,000 markup on a $25,000 truck LOL
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Old Jan 3, 2022 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
$10,000 markup on a $25,000 truck LOL
P.T. Barnum didn't base that famous phrase of his on nothing.
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Old Jan 3, 2022 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
$10,000 markup on a $25,000 truck LOL
For comparison sake, $10k markup on all F150's at my Ford dealership since last July.

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Old Jan 3, 2022 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Fizzboy7
For comparison sake, $10k markup on all F150's at my Ford dealership since last July.

Probably can't make a direct comparison, though. F-150s start at a significantly higher price than Mavericks....in short, they are a lot more truck.
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Old Jan 4, 2022 | 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by TriC
Overall, it seemed a good, perhaps great, value at MSRP.

However, it was marked up by $10,000. When I laughed at that number, the salesman assured me that he'd have no trouble getting that price and that, in fact, a customer was coming from 150 miles away today for it.
check next week and see if it's still there.
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Old Jan 4, 2022 | 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Probably can't make a direct comparison, though. F-150s start at a significantly higher price than Mavericks....in short, they are a lot more truck.
Yes -- THAT is the comparison.
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Old Jan 4, 2022 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by tex2670
Yes -- THAT is the comparison.
I'm not sure, though, if you are agreeing with me or not......a 10K markup on a 20-30K Maverick is probably more significant than a 10K markup on an F-150 King Ranch that costs three times that amount. Personally, I don't like the idea of ANY mark-up (never did), but, of course, I don't control the market.....in a Seller's Market, whoever is selling the vehicle can call the shots.
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Old Jan 4, 2022 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
I'm not sure, though, if you are agreeing with me or not......a 10K markup on a 20-30K Maverick is probably more significant than a 10K markup on an F-150 King Ranch that costs three times that amount. Personally, I don't like the idea of ANY mark-up (never did), but, of course, I don't control the market.....in a Seller's Market, whoever is selling the vehicle can call the shots.
The comparison is that they are asking for a $10K markup on 2 cars with very different MSRPs, putting an exclamation point on the very high markup on the Mav. You were just saying the same thing, with more detail.
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Old Jan 4, 2022 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by tex2670
The comparison is that they are asking for a $10K markup on 2 cars with very different MSRPs, putting an exclamation point on the very high markup on the Mav. You were just saying the same thing, with more detail.
Yes....Agreed.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
check next week and see if it's still there.
It wont be
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Old Jan 4, 2022 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
It wont be
Agreed - the market for the hybrids in particular is simply insane. Hybrid ordering has been closed since November and won't re-open until August. Some dealers reportedly are even trying to get those who ordered to pay mark-ups above a previously agreed price. If the buyer doesn't go for a mark-up, the dealer just figures someone else will pay it.
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Old Jan 4, 2022 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
$10,000 markup on a $25,000 truck LOL
Wow. Never mind, suddenly I don't want one.
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 05:59 AM
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Dealers are taking advantage of the fact that they aren't going to get any hybrid Mavericks for stock unless a customer cancels one they ordered. If you want a hybrid model and haven't ordered one, you have to wait for a 2023 model or fine one at a dealership that was a cancelled order.

Some unscrupulous dealerships have been telling customers that they have to switch their hybrid orders to the Ecoboost engine. Others have been adding a huge ADM once the truck shows up, hoping that the customer will walk. Then they turn around and mark it up for sale as a stock unit.
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by N0b0dy
Some unscrupulous dealerships have been telling customers that they have to switch their hybrid orders to the Ecoboost engine. Others have been adding a huge ADM once the truck shows up, hoping that the customer will walk. Then they turn around and mark it up for sale as a stock unit.
I'm not a lawyer, but, as I understand it, in a number of states, a signed Bill of Sale, on an order, is considered a contract. Dealers can't later change it by marking it up after it is signed (or when the vehicle arrives), and, unless the customer has some kind of financial-emergency and simply can't fulfill it, he or she is usually also bound by its terms.
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